Server life

[bo0ya]

We play on a server that : 1. Forum topics have 1-2 responces a DAY! (healthy community....)(there was times when topics had responses every minute)

2. Everything is super expensive and most of the items r only doable by using l2 store (in this lifetime at least)

3. Events r casino oriented with minimum ROI (return of investement) and without knowing odds (super scam)

4.Administration Dont have a clue about what players need and when its needed.

5. The server is ruled by 2 kinds of "ppl" : Developers looking only for money and High end Players that only also looking for real life money 

6. Normal-casual players have no reason to play with this conditions except they r addicted (with the wrong way) to the game or having nostalgia fun for a little while and then quit

7. Corruption in this server is in every aspect of the game : truffle case (lvl 3 dw)/shilen crystals lvl 10 -dragon jewells lvl 7 or higher etc(im sure there r many more cases )

8. The game in not running properly on an official server! (Melee Lag/terrain exploits (my teleport in siege areas  etc)

My 2 cents...

[Slycutter]

12 hours ago, bo0ya said:

We play on a server that : 1. Forum topics have 1-2 responces a DAY! (healthy community....)(there was times when topics had responses every minute) 

2. Everything is super expensive and most of the items r only doable by using l2 store (in this lifetime at least)   This is changes made by Korea why I have no idea, they killed the crafting system, raid bosses, and basic field drops so I go 10,000 of materials in my warehouse that are pretty useless because they depend ether that is not tradeable or sellable so if you don't play a main with high luck useless.

3. Events r casino oriented with minimum ROI (return of investement) and without knowing odds (super scam) Agreed

4.Administration Dont have a clue about what players need and when its needed.  Its clear most do not play the game anymore like the old ones use to.

5. The server is ruled by 2 kinds of "ppl" : Developers looking only for money and High end Players that only also looking for real life money Forgot 3 Whales looking to feed their egos

6. Normal-casual players have no reason to play with this conditions except they r addicted (with the wrong way) to the game or having nostalgia fun for a little while and then quit  Some use it as a graphic social device since we are in the middle of pandemic and are tired of zoom lol

7. Corruption in this server is in every aspect of the game : truffle case (lvl 3 dw)/shilen crystals lvl 10 -dragon jewells lvl 7 or higher etc(im sure there r many more cases ) 

8. The game in not running properly on an official server! (Melee Lag/terrain exploits (my teleport in siege areas  etc)  Exploiters should be banned but nothing NCSoft West can do because they are not developers only producers.

My 2 cents...

See my replies above in bold underlined.

[Helv]

17 hours ago, bo0ya said:

We play on a server that : 1. Forum topics have 1-2 responces a DAY! (healthy community....)(there was times when topics had responses every minute)

This is thanks to our beloved forum moderators  

[BurnCycle]

17 hours ago, bo0ya said:

We play on a server that : 1. Forum topics have 1-2 responces a DAY! (healthy community....)(there was times when topics had responses every minute)

2. Everything is super expensive and most of the items r only doable by using l2 store (in this lifetime at least)

3. Events r casino oriented with minimum ROI (return of investement) and without knowing odds (super scam)

4.Administration Dont have a clue about what players need and when its needed.

5. The server is ruled by 2 kinds of "ppl" : Developers looking only for money and High end Players that only also looking for real life money 

6. Normal-casual players have no reason to play with this conditions except they r addicted (with the wrong way) to the game or having nostalgia fun for a little while and then quit

7. Corruption in this server is in every aspect of the game : truffle case (lvl 3 dw)/shilen crystals lvl 10 -dragon jewells lvl 7 or higher etc(im sure there r many more cases )

8. The game in not running properly on an official server! (Melee Lag/terrain exploits (my teleport in siege areas  etc)

My 2 cents...

1. When the moderators log once per week shows how interested they are on what you post here.

4. Administration in NCWest has (apparently) 0 power on what's done. Everything is done by the Korean side.

5. No development is made in NCWest so there is no Developers here. High end players don't have that much power ingame, now Bot users that's a different story.

7. That's a complex thematic, the case you gave is just a case of someone with a lot of money. Now having people botting without any sort of punishment is very sketchy and might be seen as a case of corruption. If that's corruption or just plain incompetence that's something that i can't really find a conclusion.

[Pacemaker]

Now this game is not only pay to win. You must add who have better bot.

I propose that ncsoft changes the points of the regulations :

1. the use of third-party programs (if you pay you can used)
2. selling items for real money (you must pay 10 percent for sell)

We have differences in items here and on the core. It's easier  to create two of the same servers... I think so

[iHyperlite]

until a change to the cost model and lack of non p2w upgrade options, the population will continue to slowly decline.

 

if the cost model, cust service, info put out by the dev team, server stability were even half of what core offers, you would see a massive increase in players.

 

i dont know who makes the choices on ncwest, but they are clearly disconnected with the player base's average expendable income

[b0uff0s]

1 hour ago, iHyperlite said:

until a change to the cost model and lack of non p2w upgrade options, the population will continue to slowly decline.

 

if the cost model, cust service, info put out by the dev team, server stability were even half of what core offers, you would see a massive increase in players.

 

i dont know who makes the choices on ncwest, but they are clearly disconnected with the player base's average expendable income

although i 100% agree, what do you make of 

a) the continuation of this course by nc, and

b) the fact that ppl put up with this?

what do these 2 day for both nc and this playerbase?

[iHyperlite]

2 hours ago, b0uff0s said:

although i 100% agree, what do you make of 

a) the continuation of this course by nc, and

b) the fact that ppl put up with this?

what do these 2 day for both nc and this playerbase?

a) i am unsure what ncwest is doing. they have lost quite a bit of players to core (players who spend) over the last 6 months.  The last few events have been a bust as far as big spenders going heavy on them.  The prices are insane, la vie is a perfect example.

ultimately, what their revenue is at the end of 2020 will dictate what happens. it seems like they are trying to make all regions similar. we have one of the most expensive p2w regions next to japan.

 

b) i think players who are invested here typically stay here. there is no other "L2" to replace this with aside from core. for an NA based player, i have issues with core and playing there actively (not a huge population for my play time).

I will say, people who spend are speaking with their wallets. I spend a hefty amount on the game monthly. I have needed la vie for over a year. I didnt spend past my 1 super pack on lvl 1-5 boxes because the prices to make lvl 5+ were just insulting and the lvl 1-5 boxes giving me all lvl 1's was a joke.

i still play actively, but I am considering moving to core or quitting if things dont change in the next few months.  When summer comes, without a worldwide lockdown, you will see the player base drop dramatically if things dont change.

 

 

 

edit: we do have the new refreshed L2 coming in 2-3 years. however, i dont think that will exist past korea. there is literally not enough players to support launching that from the ground up anywhere except their largest playerbase, which is korea.  sadly, i think they are milking this product until it closes down in 2-3 years.  Then, who knows.