Lack of Mobs! Such As Tanor! Auto Join parties that function! Please fix!

[4Fun]

There is a huge space in Tanor Valley and several other places.  At most there is maybe 20 groups of mobs spaced out. There should be more groups so more parties can be formed. It is always FULL.   At 107 there is a huge wall trying to find any parties.  This is a huge problem, as there is a limit of how long I should wander around looking for a party.  I still have to go to work!

Sometimes there are parties or need to replace but the leader is  afk.  There should be a server auto join parties for specific classes if someone drops out. There is these kinds of services in other games but this lacks any consideration to those with limited time to play. Please fix this so the game can be more enjoyable.  

[Connex]

You can solo in  EV, Phantasmal until 109, if you have gear, then you can do Silent Valley or IT Crater and if you are stronger than that then by all means go to Alligator Island, there are many spots for you to grind, stop creating more problems when there are none, you need to learn to adapt to what the game has to offer rather that btch about every little problem that YOU are facing.

Also, if you cannot find a party, then you can MAKE one, ever thought about that? Too many people just wait for someone to start a party and join later that is why a lot of players made alt toons and occupy these spots you want to go to so badly.

[Catlord]

First off, Tanor is a solo zone. It's mostly filled with pet groups and people who are past the Tanor mobs' levels but too weak for higher level zones. I like the more spaced out post-update layout. More mobs per group and you don't have to worry whether your macro will jump to the next spot if you're melee.

[4Fun]

On 6/10/2021 at 6:44 AM, Connex said:

You can solo in  EV, Phantasmal until 109, if you have gear, then you can do Silent Valley or IT Crater and if you are stronger than that then by all means go to Alligator Island, there are many spots for you to grind, stop creating more problems when there are none, you need to learn to adapt to what the game has to offer rather that btch about every little problem that YOU are facing.

Also, if you cannot find a party, then you can MAKE one, ever thought about that? Too many people just wait for someone to start a party and join later that is why a lot of players made alt toons and occupy these spots you want to go to so badly.

IF you have the gear. IF there is a free spot in Tanor.  There is alot of IF.  Not all of us have the luxury of having deep pockets of adena.   Sure you can make a party but no free spots in the places you mentioned.  Alligator Island suddenly crits harder than before.  The point of the post is it is FULL, unless you wish to run around PK people to steal their spot which has happened many times.  Such a huge area and there is only 20 or so mobs.   If they doubled  the amount of spots to grind, which is my point, there would be more parties in that level range to be able to party.  Its not like there isn't enough space!

I have already lived in EV for 6 months and you can only get to a certain point until you have to move to another location.   EV is huge and they have many mob groups sufficient enough to cover many parties.   This post is not just about me, but for many of those in the same position for the future expansion. Not everyone is going to spend 500 billion on gear or that much time to play or even have 3 pcs to run a 7 man party.  That's not called adapting, that's called a full time job with multiple pcs and not everyone will have that.    You cannot expect everyone to sit here to box their own party to hold the spot as they would also only let those they wish to let in.  That makes the game super boring.  It is a game for entertainment and for fun.  Have you ever thought about that? 

[4Fun]

9 hours ago, Catlord said:

First off, Tanor is a solo zone. It's mostly filled with pet groups and people who are past the Tanor mobs' levels but too weak for higher level zones. I like the more spaced out post-update layout. More mobs per group and you don't have to worry whether your macro will jump to the next spot if you're melee.

I guess it is only solo in Tanor if your geared. However there is plenty of space to add more mob groups and keep the spacing to have more parties. 

[Connex]

12 minutes ago, 4Fun said:

IF you have the gear. IF there is a free spot in Tanor.  There is alot of IF.  Not all of us have the luxury of having deep pockets of adena.   Sure you can make a party but no free spots in the places you mentioned.  Alligator Island suddenly crits harder than before.  The point of the post is it is FULL, unless you wish to run around PK people to steal their spot which has happened many times.  Such a huge area and there is only 20 or so mobs.   If they doubled  the amount of spots to grind, which is my point, there would be more parties in that level range to be able to party.  Its not like there isn't enough space!

I have already lived in EV for 6 months and you can only get to a certain point until you have to move to another location.   EV is huge and they have many mob groups sufficient enough to cover many parties.   This post is not just about me, but for many of those in the same position for the future expansion. Not everyone is going to spend 500 billion on gear or that much time to play or even have 3 pcs to run a 7 man party.  That's not called adapting, that's called a full time job with multiple pcs and not everyone will have that.    You cannot expect everyone to sit here to box their own party to hold the spot as they would also only let those they wish to let in.  That makes the game super boring.  It is a game for entertainment and for fun.  Have you ever thought about that? 

let me stop you right there.

a) you do NOT need deep pockets, you need knowledge of the game, some money and the ability to put 1 plus 1 together.
b)  the element for the 105+ areas has increased, so mobs do more dmg. that is why people are still in phantasmal/ EV until 109
c) if you spend 6 months in EV and you are not 110, then you are doing this wrong
d) your point does not matter, they have never taken into consideration what we say and they never will
e) do not wanna box many things? perfect, no1 is forcing you to instead of posting a wall of text here with your views and suggestions, post in the recruitment section that you are looking for 1 more person and you can have a 6 man group right there, 3 toons each person.
f) if you think that you need 500b you are wrong, you need WAY more than that BUT , I assume you wanna have fun, then all you need is a +10 blessed exatled set and some misc gear.

a 6 man group  can survive in tanor easy, I have a 106 tank, that has +10 exatled set and a +5 protection talisman, you can do double ISS or Iss + healer and 3x dd's one of them can be a summoner ot eviscerator that need no gear at all so all you have to do is spend 50$ for a set and from there on go with whatever is cheap on the auction house

[4Fun]

12 hours ago, Connex said:

let me stop you right there.

a) you do NOT need deep pockets, you need knowledge of the game, some money and the ability to put 1 plus 1 together.
b)  the element for the 105+ areas has increased, so mobs do more dmg. that is why people are still in phantasmal/ EV until 109
c) if you spend 6 months in EV and you are not 110, then you are doing this wrong
d) your point does not matter, they have never taken into consideration what we say and they never will
e) do not wanna box many things? perfect, no1 is forcing you to instead of posting a wall of text here with your views and suggestions, post in the recruitment section that you are looking for 1 more person and you can have a 6 man group right there, 3 toons each person.
f) if you think that you need 500b you are wrong, you need WAY more than that BUT , I assume you wanna have fun, then all you need is a +10 blessed exatled set and some misc gear.

a 6 man group  can survive in tanor easy, I have a 106 tank, that has +10 exatled set and a +5 protection talisman, you can do double ISS or Iss + healer and 3x dd's one of them can be a summoner ot eviscerator that need no gear at all so all you have to do is spend 50$ for a set and from there on go with whatever is cheap on the auction house

Your missing my point.  Yet you are geared and have plenty of toons with plenty of money spent to get it. Not all of us have that luxury.  My point was to increase the amount of mob groups(currently 20 groups, add 20 more so 20 more parties can be created, etc) and hopefully fix the way parties are done. Is there plenty of physical game space to double the amount of mobs like EV? Definitely.   You cannot even solo at tanor if there is no free mob group for a spot. 

This would not change any of the mechanics your talking about and that was not even my point!   Yet you are saying the current system is what we have to accept as this was supposed to be a improvement thread for feedback for future updates.

Whether anyone would listen is another issue and at least I have pointed it out or nothing changes if nothing is said. 

[Connex]

11 hours ago, 4Fun said:

Your missing my point.  Yet you are geared and have plenty of toons with plenty of money spent to get it. Not all of us have that luxury.  My point was to increase the amount of mob groups(currently 20 groups, add 20 more so 20 more parties can be created, etc) and hopefully fix the way parties are done. Is there plenty of physical game space to double the amount of mobs like EV? Definitely.   You cannot even solo at tanor if there is no free mob group for a spot. 

This would not change any of the mechanics your talking about and that was not even my point!   Yet you are saying the current system is what we have to accept as this was supposed to be a improvement thread for feedback for future updates.

Whether anyone would listen is another issue and at least I have pointed it out or nothing changes if nothing is said. 

you are complaining about one single spot, get over it, move to another spot, it HAS ALWAYS been like that, do you remember the catacombs? or  TOI back in the day? or the 700 mobs for 3rd class change? did they EVER in the history of L2 change a locations mob density becasue we asked? 

I never said I was geared but if you consider spending 50$ for blessed exalted set a lot of money, they you clearly are in the wrong game. I never said to solo Tanor.

[4Fun]

15 hours ago, Connex said:

you are complaining about one single spot, get over it, move to another spot, it HAS ALWAYS been like that, do you remember the catacombs? or  TOI back in the day? or the 700 mobs for 3rd class change? did they EVER in the history of L2 change a locations mob density becasue we asked? 

I never said I was geared but if you consider spending 50$ for blessed exalted set a lot of money, they you clearly are in the wrong game. I never said to solo Tanor.

Its a suggestion, if nothing is said, they will never know. I do not know why you are hell bent on people making suggestions and then bashing them.  Then tons of people stay quiet because they will get a bashing  for speaking out.  I rarely ever post on forums. 

Again you are also saying go spend money for gear.  Its about value of the money not just keep spending.  I will only pay out of pocket when they make it worth the spend but at 107 it isn't worth it.  With the amount of mass DC and server issues, as well as lack of content, clearly it is frustrating.  If NCSoft ever reads this, that would be great.  Ciao!

[Failure]

On 6/13/2021 at 4:11 AM, Connex said:

you are complaining about one single spot, get over it, move to another spot, it HAS ALWAYS been like that, do you remember the catacombs? or  TOI back in the day? or the 700 mobs for 3rd class change? did they EVER in the history of L2 change a locations mob density becasue we asked? 

I never said I was geared but if you consider spending 50$ for blessed exalted set a lot of money, they you clearly are in the wrong game. I never said to solo Tanor.

to be fair, over half the map is not being used for anything at all..........literally nothing

back in the day, the map had multiple spots to level up for all level ranges and the whole map was in use

thats the problem, they dont listen...they dont even play the game @Hime & @Juji because they know its trash in its current state

[Xess]

The only suggestion I saw taken seriously when was the issue with afk PK and players dropped nice items.

That time the build wasn't supposed to be in our version but Juji asked korean dev to speed things up.

Other than that nothing much, we just take what they give minus certain items because we are in 'free2play' region.

[Catlord]

On 6/15/2021 at 10:00 PM, Xess said:

The only suggestion I saw taken seriously when was the issue with afk PK and players dropped nice items.

Eh, that's not very accurate. It took a lot of people dropping a lot of nice items and even more people complaining consistently for them to actually do something about it. I think the most prompt response we've seen was the attribute herb a couple of "updates" back, may it rest in peace.

On 6/12/2021 at 11:21 AM, 4Fun said:

I guess it is only solo in Tanor if your geared. However there is plenty of space to add more mob groups and keep the spacing to have more parties. 

It's still intended as a solo zone and AI is the alternative. Between those two you should be able to find a spot.