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Skill Power - how it work?

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How we can measure skill power effect in game ?

For example: feoh

Ultimate Body To Mind Lv 11 +15 Power

Sacrifices 464 HP to recover 655 MP

Enchantment effect: +15 Power

Increases Skill Power by 15%

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Result 655 +15% =753.25 and in fact i get 753 mana each time i use this skill.

But where to put +5% Skill Power from abilities settings?

And more important where to put Skill  Power increase from Passive Forgotten Power - Magical Attack Lv 15 which should increase M.Atk by 8%, M.skill Power by 2%?

Seem that those  from Abilities and from Forgotten Power don't stack and don't have any effect,

Feoh have skills sorted by power with lowest Death Lord at power 100 and highest Arcana Comet Strike at 709 power.

I guess that all this power don't mean nothing as if feoh could have power like an ISS to hit an mob with 46888 power added to p.atk (Chaos Symphony lv 3)

That would be 66 times more powerful as is feoh strongest skill and it is definitely not true as in game effects.

So what would be common denominator for skill power that could be valid for all races and all classes?

Amount of mana consumed per damage unit? (lol)

Amount of damage per second? (lol)

Or whatever else as stats in Character Status for races and classes are so different that is impossible to measure anything.

(would be cool to have a table like toon of this race consume lowest amount of mana to deal highest damage per second and recover approx. same hp/mp as other races)

 

 

 

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L2mommy    5

Hello, SleepingPower. Have you considered posting this on the "Wizard" subforum? I'm not sure the hardcore, math-loving Feohs check this forum much. :) Also, you might find some previous discussion of this by searching that forum. Oh, and I think the L2 EU forums actually have a section where someone tests a lot of this stuff.

L2 EU forum - Class discussions: https://eu.4gameforum.com/forums/398/

L2 EU Experimentation forum: https://eu.4gameforum.com/forums/413/

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31 minutes ago, L2mommy said:

Hello, SleepingPower. Have you considered posting this on the "Wizard" subforum? I'm not sure the hardcore, math-loving Feohs check this forum much. :) Also, you might find some previous discussion of this by searching that forum. Oh, and I think the L2 EU forums actually have a section where someone tests a lot of this stuff.

L2 EU forum - Class discussions: https://eu.4gameforum.com/forums/398/

L2 EU Experimentation forum: https://eu.4gameforum.com/forums/413/

I considered to post question in game questions section of forum.

Its evident that you didn't read post as post is not about feoh which is used as example like also ISS was used as example.

Nothing to experiment here.

Question is mostly about Skill Power.

Question got my attention as we recently got Forgotten Power Spell books about which you would know if you would read at least forums you provided links 

But by  searching this forum you can familiarize yourself about too.

But if you like you can post it  one on feoh section, one in ISS section, one in Abilities section and one in Forgotten Power section.

I don't read or post on forums you suggest but I allow you to troll also there.

Btw where i might fint previous discussion about Forgotten Power? Ah yes probably on Russian or Korean or Japanese forum lol but I play on NC west and post in their forum.

Thank you for post, it help a lot to answer my questions lol.

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L2mommy    5
5 hours ago, SleepingPower said:

I considered to post question in game questions section of forum.

Its evident that you didn't read post as post is not about feoh which is used as example like also ISS was used as example.

Nothing to experiment here.

Question is mostly about Skill Power.

Question got my attention as we recently got Forgotten Power Spell books about which you would know if you would read at least forums you provided links 

But by  searching this forum you can familiarize yourself about too.

But if you like you can post it  one on feoh section, one in ISS section, one in Abilities section and one in Forgotten Power section.

I don't read or post on forums you suggest but I allow you to troll also there.

Btw where i might fint previous discussion about Forgotten Power? Ah yes probably on Russian or Korean or Japanese forum lol but I play on NC west and post in their forum.

Thank you for post, it help a lot to answer my questions lol.

Hello, SleepingPower. I focused on the example (Feoh) that you provided in your original post because I thought you could find the answers you're searching for in the class forum of one of the game's most popular classes. But you are correct, I could also have suggested Yuls or Isses for the same reason. The link to the EU game forum was given simply to help with your questions had you wanted to check for yourself. I tend to look at several sources for information when I'm checking into something (reddit, non-NA official forums, etc). Enjoy your day.

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Auburn    31
On 3/13/2019 at 11:33 AM, SleepingPower said:

Thank you to inform forum users about how you behave when you want to check something.

Your posts in this tread are totally off topic.

So please leave this thread.

I think they were providing you with a link so that you could look up the information yourself. Everything you asked is in the links they provided. It took less then 2 minutes for me to find it.

Here is your answer since you can't look for yourself.

655 MP *1.15 = 735MP restored when enchanted to +15 power. /Math

If you look at the difference in Pattack of an iss or tyrr you will see that very rarely do they break 1M pattack, but if you look at a feoh it is often well over 1m Mattack. Adding 40k power to their pattack is still smaller then adding 150 power to mattack for feoh, because the BASE numbers are so different. 

 

P.S. And I forgot to mention. I know Feoh/Mages used to be a linear damage toon, meaning you had to increase mattack by 4x to increase your damage 2x, where all melee is 1x for 1x. Can anyone still confirm this? This also makes a HUGE difference in how you factor in damage dealt.

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14 hours ago, Auburn said:

I think they were providing you with a link so that you could look up the information yourself. Everything you asked is in the links they provided. It took less then 2 minutes for me to find it.

Here is your answer since you can't look for yourself.

655 MP *1.15 = 735MP restored when enchanted to +15 power. /Math

If you look at the difference in Pattack of an iss or tyrr you will see that very rarely do they break 1M pattack, but if you look at a feoh it is often well over 1m Mattack. Adding 40k power to their pattack is still smaller then adding 150 power to mattack for feoh, because the BASE numbers are so different. 

 

P.S. And I forgot to mention. I know Feoh/Mages used to be a linear damage toon, meaning you had to increase mattack by 4x to increase your damage 2x, where all melee is 1x for 1x. Can anyone still confirm this? This also makes a HUGE difference in how you factor in damage dealt.

This kind of math  is contained in my first post wich include question about where are skill power increase from ability settings (+ 5% Power increase) and from forgotten power pasive (level 11 Forgotten Spell book Chapter 2 M.skill Power +1% to level 30 which increase M.skill Power +15%)

Its square root base for your info. That  is not same for all races and classes I posted in first post too.

 Btw links do not answer my question same as your post do not help too.

Where we can see additional 5+15=20% added to an skill enhanced by 15% already? Should be way more then 753in feoh case i used.?

And skill Power question is valid for all races and classes not just for an feoh.

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