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Classic Server Maintenance: Wednesday, May 6, 2020

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Cyan    22

Game servers will be down for a maintenance beginning Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 5 a.m. PDT /  7 a.m. CDT / 8 a.m. EDT / 2 p.m. GMT+1 and will be unavailable for approximately 2 hours and 30 minutes.

With this maintenance:

  • Standard database maintenance and application restarts will be performed.
  • The Hunting Zone event and PVE Buff event will continue for one week!
  • The 16th Anniversary event will continue for three weeks!
  • Shiny Jewelry Boxes will be in the L2 store for three weeks.
  • The World Boss Hunt Event, Rare Accessory Box Event, and XP & Drop Boss Event for Lv. 75+ will end. Please check the Quality of Life Changes thread to post feedback on these events and to view upcoming content!
  • The Attendance Login event will end.

If you have any questions about the changes taking place during this maintenance, please feel free to post them on the forums. We also encourage you to follow @LineageIIOps for maintenance and server status updates.

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lventoo    1

Hey NC soft team. Just for you to know that server settings on GIRAN CLASSIC are not right. Yesterday we had 150% adena drop rate for lvl 75 chars and above. Today the same characters are making exactly 1/3 of the yesterdays adena. Thats a nerf of more than 150% please adress this, or server setting after restart can be wrong like it was 2 weeks ago (and then u hot fixed it) when you gave us this AWSOME server settings ;) 

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sebamay    2

Tiny suggestion about Player's Wish Buff (PVE):

Maybe it would be possible to extend the event at least for low lvl characters (ie: <60lvl)

Please consider it... 

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MiniBacon    0
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  • The Attendance Login event will end.

    So no reward for low lvls.... Nice. 
    >:( (That should be part of game to keep ppl playing...)
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50 minutes ago, MiniBacon said:
  • The Attendance Login event will end.

    So no reward for low lvls.... Nice. 
    >:( (That should be part of game to keep ppl playing...)

Claim your VIP 1 points from L2 store and there is reward for players Lv 39 and below either in L2 store or L2 coin shop.

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17 minutes ago, Darkesttunnel said:

Claim your VIP 1 points from L2 store and there is reward for players Lv 39 and below either in L2 store or L2 coin shop.

 

Both where crap and didn't help me with progression at all dayli hunting and attendance were only good ones i'm still struggling as non mage class with 30+ grind. Over all anniversary event look more like old player retention aimed then new player acquisition focused.

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prfallen1    4

OK since is feedback time I might share my 2 cents...

While I am new to Classic, started last week, I am an oldschool Lineage2 player, I have played on retail from C2 Teon till Goddess of Destruction.

Here is my take on Classic thus far :

The Good - what is good about Classic -

 

- It throws you straight into memory lane with that C1-C4 vibe.

- Many quality of life changes from the old days.

- The new leveling up experience on low levels feels right.

- The freebies while they are not much they help a lot.

- The removal of grade penalty for armor/weapons feels nice since it allows you to tackle harder content faster.

 

The Bad - what i dislike on the current iteration of Classic -

- Removal of crafting soulshots by dwarves. - predatory pay2play tactic -

- Eventho' the drop rates on key materials used in crafting ( armor/weapon) are very low they are not worth adena on NPC shops.

With what sort of economy, besides cash shop, have you designed this feature ? How are we supposed to make a profit and tackle higher gearing tiers when drops are literally worthless ?

- Adena drop rates are incredibly low. ( for a lvl 40 to afford the daily LIMITED soulshots tickets (300k adena ) is required a couple good hours of grinding and you barely end up with the money needed for the tickets and no other profit.

- The instant exp scrolls that we get from daily kills are really nice, but why not match the exp with some sp ? We end up with exp but low lvl skills....

- Low to no solo dungeons like paliaka/kamaloka that rewards even low and mid tier players with some loot or a chance for gear upgrade. Why dont you guys make a series of kamaloka dailies or, hell at this point, even weeklies, where players can get some sort of loot to actually feel some kind of progression ?

 

The Ugly - how i see the classic experience overall -

Classic servers are on life support, not enough healthy player base to maintain the server maintenance and development team and that is the reason why the game itself is even more pay2win than Blade&Soul. Actually this model is not even pay 2 win, is pay 2 be able to do content. If you guys played Entropia Universe, that mmorpg where you have to pay with your credit card for bullets, well, is the same model on Lineage 2 where you have to pay with credit card for soulshots.

I was willing to return to Lineage 2, due to nostalgia, quarantine, whatever. But what I am seeing is just a predatory monetization system that forces you to keep spending in the cash shop in order to play.

There is no economy at low levels, there is NO incentive for new players to deal with the, so well known, terrible Asian grind. Back in the day you would make adena, get key mats to sell on Giran, get quality loot now and then, there was a reason to grind, but now you get nothing. From 1 to 48 in a 3 man group, between all 3 chars I got 1 pair of Plated leather Gloves as a drop. In 48 levels. And that is all. I dont even wanna mention how I am staying on adena. B grades are just a wet dream. Hell, not even a dream, imma quit before I am able to make like 12 mils for a weapon....How to make those money, from what ? I need to be 76+ to be able to do some content that might drop some loot I can sell, and how am I supposed to get there, in d grades ?  

Cash shop sells stats on amulets, cloaks, hats, you name it, they have it in cash shop. I get it, you want to milk the dying cow as much as you can. But for the love of God, let the non whale-ing people have some sort of income, atleast to maintain the soul shots costs. 

Without the non whale people you would remain with a playerbase of 100 persons. Those 100 whales wont pay your bills alone. Those 100 whales will get fed up because there is no one to b1tchslap ingame with their credit card and they will quit. 

Tone up the adena rewards, let everyone afford shots, you already have plenty of "must buy" things on your predatory cash shops. An easy example would be the blatant things like infinite quivers, they used to be sold by every npc, now cash shop only ! Tell me that is not predatory tactic !

In all my honnesty, I have good memories with Lineage 2, and it will remain my "sweetheart" when it comes to pvp in any any mmo, but at this point you stain the image of a once great MMO, with all the predatory cash shop you implemented.

 

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ThatMyGuy    1

O yea i loved the experience of being KSed by Adena bots while killing 300-500 mobs for it. Lucky some get glitched or die on spot so you have 5-10min window untill when next one pops and take that place again :]

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13 minutes ago, prfallen1 said:

B grades are just a wet dream. Hell, not even a dream, imma quit before I am able to make like 12 mils for a weapon....How to make those money, from what ? I need to be 76+ to be able to do some content that might drop some loot I can sell, and how am I supposed to get there, in d grades ?  

Tone up the adena rewards, let everyone afford shots, you already have plenty of "must buy" things on your predatory cash shops. An easy example would be the blatant things like infinite quivers, they used to be sold by every npc, now cash shop only ! Tell me that is not predatory tactic !

With that statement of b grade weapon price I can tell you're playing on TI.

Infinite quivers weren't in classic originally. They were added well after the fact as part of an event that everyone could play. I got my quivers through those events. You can buy them with L2coins which you gather while leveling.

I agree with the vast majority of your post. THis version of classic has a much lower drop rate than the other versions including the original classic. It's been a common complaint since day one. That's why there are so many lowbie bots/afk groups running because it's the only way to afford shots realistically on your mains..

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prfallen1    4
1 minute ago, Tool_of_Society said:

With that statement of b grade weapon price I can tell you're playing on TI.

Infinite quivers weren't in classic originally. They were added well after the fact as part of an event that everyone could play. I got my quivers through those events. You can buy them with L2coins which you gather while leveling.

I agree with the vast majority of your post. THis version of classic has a much lower drop rate than the other versions including the original classic. It's been a common complaint since day one. That's why there are so many lowbie bots/afk groups running because it's the only way to afford shots realistically on your mains..

I play on Giran. 

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12 minutes ago, prfallen1 said:

I play on Giran. 

Then the price should be much cheaper as I've been seeing top B grade (excluding mage weapons) for 5-7m.

I figured TI because prices tend to be noticeably higher there for them.

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prfallen1    4
2 minutes ago, Tool_of_Society said:

Then the price should be much cheaper as I've been seeing top B grade (excluding mage weapons) for 5-7m.

I play an archer, BoP is 12 mil ( the cheapest I have seen) without othel 6, and with Othel 6 I have seen a couple going 25 mils. And I have been studying the BoP market for a week now :(

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Ah I've seen bare BOPs for 7m while looking for other things. They aren't a common sight though.

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prfallen1    4
Just now, Tool_of_Society said:

Ah I've seen bare BOPs for 7m while looking for other things. They aren't a common sight though.

7 seems reasonable, hopefully in 1 -2 weeks i can make 7m for a bop than :)

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loilloil    0

before event my adena rate was 170 
in event time it was 350
Now its 65  

Something is wrong ! big wrong

 

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Mundo    0

 The adena drop rate seems to be lower that it should be.and i am not talking for the bonus adena rate that was meant to stop but the actual adena rate.can you please fix it?

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OdeZza    0
On 5/6/2020 at 9:25 PM, prfallen1 said:

7 seems reasonable, hopefully in 1 -2 weeks i can make 7m for a bop than :)

I'll sell for you at 6 :)

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