Scarce Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Since the problem with the queue has not been fixed, I suggest, as a temporary solution, that the queue be removed. Since the respawn time of low-level mobs has been reduced, there won't be a problem of over-population in these areas. Moreover, I believe the server can handle ~400 more players. As an alternative if the queue cannot removed, at the very least the server capacity should slightly be increased temporarily. What do the developers think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QxQ Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 they won't remove queue "you can buy vip to avoid queue" - THEY WANT A QUEUE PROBLEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Do you realize server hardware has real limitations right? The queue is not there just for fun. I am sure it's the Korean Dev team's top priority, though. As much as I think it is irrelevant because the game should be pay to play anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarce Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, FatHips said: Do you realize server hardware has real limitations right? The queue is not there just for fun. I am sure it's the Korean Dev team's top priority, though. As much as I think it is irrelevant because the game should be pay to play anyways. I am pretty sure the hardware can handle a few more players in order to reduce the traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QxQ Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, FatHips said: the game should be pay to play anyways. it is pay to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastTimeParadie Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Im so tired of this, so tired that ncsoft dont give a shit about this, isnt a real urgency for them, a lot of hipocresy, seems like they only want a vip/bot server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Scarce said: I am pretty sure the hardware can handle a few more players in order to reduce the traffic. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. You know what happens when too many people log a server? LAG, like horrific lag, that will make it unable to play for anyone. Ever looked into the cost of upgrading a server and upgrading the volume of scrubbed network traffic for a business? 5 digits, easy. They could forgoe the scrubbing, but then any pissed off player could easily DOS it down. Not to mention, NCWest might not even have IT staff on hand able to do a physical upgrade, it's also likely that the servers are not physically located near them. Do yourself a favor and take a look, estimate the income NC gets from L2 and think about it a bit. Free players are literally leeches off the server, so upgrading hardware due to a large hoard of non-VIP players makes very little sense. If you want them to upgrade the servers, pay for VIP, if enough people do it, they will. That's simple math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarce Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, FatHips said: You literally have no idea what you are talking about. The server is probably operating below its limits. Stop trying to be the "I know it all" guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, Scarce said: The server is probably operating below its limits. Stop trying to be the "I know it all" guy. What is their possible incentive for operating under any limit? Use your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarce Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, FatHips said: What is their possible incentive for operating under any limit? Use your head. And this is why this should be done temporarily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scarce said: And this is why this should be done temporarily you are assuming something that makes no business sense If for some miracle in the business world, that NC was artificially limiting their potential income as a company, and operating under limits even though they know there is a large customer base that cannot get into their product and potentially spend more money. In this fantasy world of yours, then, yes, absolutely raise the limit. But it is highly improbable that that is reality. Though not impossible. Also, why would they degrade the experience of their paying customers (VIP) by increasing their latency to allow more non-paying customers access beyond their hardware specifications? It makes no sense at all which is why they likely won't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sctr Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 F2Wait or P2Play bruh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oOcola Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Servers are dusty from 2004 and can't handle the masses over 6k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhavethewrongrate Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Queue = VIP MONEY. IT won't GET FIX UNTIL NEXT WEEK. THE MONEY HAS TO STOP COMING FOR THEM TO FIX/CHANGE IT, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastTimeParadie Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 We have to log in, this is so unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, oOcola said: Servers are dusty from 2004 and can't handle the masses over 6k! buy VIP , more money for more developmental time L2 Classic probably has a "budget" of time from NCKorea as NCKorea has many products, L2 NA which is one of the smallest, the only way to increase that budget is to bring in more revenue, this is how things work in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpert89 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Lol I bought NCoins but can't even log in to spend 'em and become vip QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldjohn Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, FatHips said: Do you realize server hardware has real limitations right? The queue is not there just for fun. I am sure it's the Korean Dev team's top priority, though. As much as I think it is irrelevant because the game should be pay to play anyways. The queue is here to be STUCK IN THE ASS OF NON PAYING PEOPLE. That's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rumpert89 said: Lol I bought NCoins but can't even log in to spend 'em and become vip QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ That's really the most poor implementation of the system, that really really sucks. And that's why it should be their top priority, followed by account block issues. As much as I want the rate issue to be top priority, those other two take priorities as they are direct threats to the business, rates are a significant, but secondary issue. Honestly if it was not for that, they probably would not bother "fixing" it at all. Demand would drop and the problem would disappear. Free players should thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViciousL2 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 The real solution is to limit boxing while they fix the disconnection bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, ViciousL2 said: The real solution is to limit boxing while they fix the disconnection bug. Again, doing that would take the same time (from the same people) and have a much greater (negative) effect than actually fixing the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViciousL2 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, FatHips said: Again, doing that would take the same time (from the same people) and have a much greater (negative) effect than actually fixing the problem. That's where you are wrong. Less boxes means less connections, leading to more free space for players instead of bots or shops or pet buffers. Queues are relatively constant, so is max capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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