Alesthra Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Tbh this update failed epicly. Sure lv 110 armor is new stuff, ,but was it really needed to literally destroy game. Classes literally has no point. There are no longer difference between racial skills for 1-85 content. Grade system lost its purpose since technically it's possible for lv1 to run with BiS maxed gear. You can also pk without punishment. Maybe it's their plan. To destroy live server and leave only classic version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpdemonic Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Classic destroyed too. Most players left after last update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muash Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 EPIC FAil not cuz the update... but cuz no1 can get enuff gear w/o spend thousands of dolars... this update is awesome to pvp... every thing in this update is focus on pvp... but how can we pvp when prices are insane high? there is no way to farm, cuz adena is way too much nerfed, l2store prices is only for those who can spend alot of money... if wasnt that hard to gear up... this update had everything to be awesome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alesthra Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 Gearing up was always insane in L2. But with this update they destroyed differences between races untill lv85. Was it really necessary to take away all skills and replace them with weaker versions of 4th class skills. Why does those 1th 2nd and 3rd class transfers exist? What's the point of having grade system if you have no grade penalty and get free twilight set at lv40? Also PK having no punishment is stupid thing. Not only it's not fair: you commit crime without any risk. But also it takes away fun of being PK. When you have nothing to risk there's no fun to PK... Removing grade requirements is also stupid because people will want R110 here and now. With grade penalty you needed to reach required level at least. Which takes time. To reach lv 110 you need trillions...in not quadrillions of exp...so with old system you'd at least have lots of time to get stuff for it...now basically everyone wants R110....even fresh lv85...who reached that level in 1 hour...and since there's no grade penalty even those lv85 wishes to get R110 ASAP. GoD and later patches hurt lineage 2 by kinda taking what makes it unique. But at least leveling took some effort. Not 10-12 quests which can be done in 50-60minutes to reach lv85. Actually this patch will scare new people away. They'll reach lv 85 in hour and assume they can be 110 in one week or even day. But that's not case. Game soon will destroy them with things like no quests or kill 1000 mobs for 1% of level... Even just after hitting lv85. There are few quests. They might give you enough exp to reach lv 86. Can't tell...leveling new character...even if they do....both combined needs at least 400 monsters to kill. Yeah. This is lineage 2. Wouldn't be surprised if later they ask to get 3k demon essence or whatever with drop rate being 1-5%. For those who played older versions it's fine. But it might scare new people. I mean...they might not understand why such sudden random difficulty increase in quests... Anyway...it's possible they planning to shut down game in near future. Still..even if that's truth,I see literally zero reasons to mess up game so badly that everyone would hate it on last days...don't they dare to go game of thrones path... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiChele Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Alesthra said: Tbh this update failed epicly. Sure lv 110 armor is new stuff, ,but was it really needed to literally destroy game. Classes literally has no point. There are no longer difference between racial skills for 1-85 content. Grade system lost its purpose since technically it's possible for lv1 to run with BiS maxed gear. You can also pk without punishment. Maybe it's their plan. To destroy live server and leave only classic version. dude i need 300 Billion to change my +11 dark set Correct price of crystals 150m each and i need 1850 guess what i am not even echange armor i will stay with my dark r99 until promos be up and maybe if i am lucky 1 year from now if i gather all the mats i will change it (if server still up until then ) + Plus to make it limited need also to gather 1890 Dark Armor Stones guess again one more year = 2 years for armor only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiChele Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alesthra said: Gearing up was always insane in L2. But with this update they destroyed differences between races untill lv85. Was it really necessary to take away all skills and replace them with weaker versions of 4th class skills. Why does those 1th 2nd and 3rd class transfers exist? What's the point of having grade system if you have no grade penalty and get free twilight set at lv40? Also PK having no punishment is stupid thing. Not only it's not fair: you commit crime without any risk. But also it takes away fun of being PK. When you have nothing to risk there's no fun to PK... Removing grade requirements is also stupid because people will want R110 here and now. With grade penalty you needed to reach required level at least. Which takes time. To reach lv 110 you need trillions...in not quadrillions of exp...so with old system you'd at least have lots of time to get stuff for it...now basically everyone wants R110....even fresh lv85...who reached that level in 1 hour...and since there's no grade penalty even those lv85 wishes to get R110 ASAP. GoD and later patches hurt lineage 2 by kinda taking what makes it unique. But at least leveling took some effort. Not 10-12 quests which can be done in 50-60minutes to reach lv85. Actually this patch will scare new people away. They'll reach lv 85 in hour and assume they can be 110 in one week or even day. But that's not case. Game soon will destroy them with things like no quests or kill 1000 mobs for 1% of level... Even just after hitting lv85. There are few quests. They might give you enough exp to reach lv 86. Can't tell...leveling new character...even if they do....both combined needs at least 400 monsters to kill. Yeah. This is lineage 2. Wouldn't be surprised if later they ask to get 3k demon essence or whatever with drop rate being 1-5%. For those who played older versions it's fine. But it might scare new people. I mean...they might not understand why such sudden random difficulty increase in quests... Anyway...it's possible they planning to shut down game in near future. Still..even if that's truth,I see literally zero reasons to mess up game so badly that everyone would hate it on last days...don't they dare to go game of thrones path... bro You cant create new char do you know why not because of lvl you can reach in 5 months 105 easy ! BUT To Make A pvp char with top gear end everything good luck ! in the half you will quit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 in HighFive update I spend 1.5year in making a complete Masterwork Noble Vesper Heavy set so lulz many hours spend farming with live spoilers for all the mats & recs needed still got the set out of nostalgic reasons and as memento of how hardcore the game used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottWillEs Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 For the old players like me its not realy shocking. atleast its endgame gear and its always depending on how much you can farm. The ones that allready knew about this requierments could prepare for it and had there stuff 5 min after update launch. And it was not so hard to get that info rusWiki had it like 1 year ago, try to be better informed and wish for the best. More important is that all stuff is farm able and me personaly dont care if it takes 1 or 2 years becouse i dont need to spend ncoins. Elcyum price gone up so fishing is profitable if you use the ecyum yourself. (only with lvl99 baits in Naia) All i would like to see is a compensation for that bugged first Update weeks + Lucians bracelet instance implantet so i can finaly +10 it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zMigueX Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Draecke said: in HighFive update I spend 1.5year in making a complete Masterwork Noble Vesper Heavy set so lulz many hours spend farming with live spoilers for all the mats & recs needed still got the set out of nostalgic reasons and as memento of how hardcore the game used to be you say it, in H5...when spoil and craft was funny, when you can spend the whole day farming to get better items. now you cant, spoilers get nothing from spoil. i use to have a spoiler to spoil and craft my items, but now, whats the reason for having one? L2 store(and GMs) broke the game for money. soon crafting materials and recipes will be sold in L2 store and ppl who play spoiler(if it still someone play as one) will be used as a warehouse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 State of game in 2 words - INSANELY EXPENSIVE.. casino type, loot boxes with low to impossible chance of good drop, endless money pit, NOT fun most of the time ( when enchanting, compounding, augmenting, burning adena/ncoin and getting nothing at the end ) and not free to play at all! All this is fixable even now in a way that players can enjoy L2 more and more, but seems no1 bothers to listen and DO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Argus said: State of game in 2 words - INSANELY EXPENSIVE.. casino type, loot boxes with low to impossible chance of good drop, endless money pit, NOT fun most of the time ( when enchanting, compounding, augmenting, burning adena/ncoin and getting nothing at the end ) and not free to play at all! All this is fixable even now in a way that players can enjoy L2 more and more, but seems no1 bothers to listen and DO. that get discussed way better in this topic: https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/13188-insane-prices/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 TBH I am discussing this for the last year and a half and I am really getting frustrated to see my friends not being able to compete because of the gear price and many players quitting because they cant cope with the ingame store promos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleistoros Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Pay to play or pay to win is not such a big problem....on the other hand pay a lot to play and pay a house to win it is indeed a very nasty problem. And it is sooooo easy to fall on that road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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