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Oh it's stupid in ways I never dreamed possible. It's almost hilarious in it's ineptitude and tone deafness. The botters are going to do great though so I guess good for them. Meanwhile I'm clicking every single buff on every single person in my party because none of the buff macros work now. Bonus points they couldn't even bother to give the BD or SWS a bone with auto song/dance usage either lol.

it's like every time I spend money on this game they do something to screw me over within a month...Whelp fool me once shame on your fool me 10x shame on me =/

Am i crazy or do I really need to click each individual buff when buffing a party member now? For god's sake dance/songs don't even work.

What does combat mode even mean? Nothing is explained anywhere. The patch notes were utterly useless as there's nothing in there that you wouldn't notice in the first 4 seconds looking at the UI. Also the UI design is utterly terrible. I tab into a client and I can't tell who it is until I click to move adn see myself. The autocombat thing loves to sit on top of the menu/map/character/blahblah on the bottom. Since I couldn't even see the map button I actually thought the map function had been removed. It's like they were trying to copy some terrible mobile game's UI which prioritizes flash over functionality...

The only time I played with one account was in the closed and open beta. That was enough to teach me that I needed to buy at least one more copy of the game so I could level up with an attached buffer. By the time 2005 rolled around I had five accounts that I manually played with just the old school macros. I only had two machines then so I had to do some alt tabbing on the main computer. The secondary machine ran the OL and SE so I only had to alt tab on that machine once every 20 minutes. THis happened because I decided to go SPS when the game went live and I needed a mana battery and buffs. The SE was the first account and the second was for the OL and things snowballed from there as I realized the SPS was excellent at PVP but terrible at PVE/leveling. Despite that "handicap" I was able to use full shots and still make money to gear my accounts up back then..Which I can't really do now.... The death penalty has always caused issues with parties. The biggest being that people didn't randomly party because they were too worried about losing XP. You could only get into parties if you knew the right people or had proved your reliability prior (a nice catch 22). Inflation is only an issue because NcSoft refuses to spend some money to fund effective means of combating bots. It's typical NcSoft short sighted behaviour. Why spend money now to insure income years from now when you can just keep the money and list it as profits!!

Yeah well that's what happens when a game developer keeps cutting out content. There's no real point to actively playing as the gold farmers have RBs worth doing on lockdown and some of the others are bugged/buggy...There's only one siege and none of the forts and other things that smaller clans could do. There's clan arena but that's an once a week thing. AA and the old 7 signs stuff is no longer in the game nor are some of the areas. Pets were removed. The manor system was removed. On and on it goes...

Eventually NcSoft will run into a wall as there are far too many choices on the PC platform to stick to an old way out of date game that requires P2W style spending to compete. I can spend 15 bucks a month and get a far better gaming experience in WoW classic. I've resisted so far because I rather enjoy making macro parties work optimally and then there's the nostalgia factor. Although NcSoft's insistence on giving us a gutted version of classic certainly limits the effects of the nostalgia factor...

Yeah NcSoft is the only company I know that actively removes content from their game every major patch. I don't even actively play the game anymore because there really isn't much to actually actively engage in. Run my farm groups 24/7 only stopping to do a clan arena boss and then back to macroing... I am worried that NcSoft korea is getting drunk on the mobile market (their biggest source of income bar none) and are trying to work classic into that direction....

I couldn't get my edit to go through properly due to some packet loss on my end so I had to make this post as a continuation of the quoted post above. The lock will be a good choice with it's debuffs and it's cheap DPS. Binding cubic earned it's keep when I was able to use it to catch a red PR that was causing issues in Cruma for some of us. The actual PKer was only a few levels higher but he had all kinds of speed and could get around corners before skills went off. The summoner DPS based groups don't even use shots and still do very well. My best leveling group uses a SK WK (WarlocK) ES and BH for dps. the BH's spoil is particularly useful in one spot and the patch will of course hurt that I have a friend who is working on a summoner group with two PS instead of the SK/BH to see if he can make the tank pets work in the 80s. It'll be interesting to see how that goes. For some reason people still tend to claim that SwSers are only for PVP but personally I find them very handy in PVE. Hunters is obviously very good for PVE and I find song of renewal to be helpful too. The rest is really helpful for surviving the silly damage that starts happening in +8x content.

3 piece plated leather bonus set with heavy doom glove/helmet is good enough to get the De into 8x. Outside of leveling where a lot of running is involved (which would be silly to do) the PL set is more dps than blue wolf heavy. Since destroyers have so much HP and have to sit at lower HP for maximum DPS the pdef difference is irrelevant. Going all +str my DE still has 2x the HP of the SK tank My BH ran the same setup until 8x too but I had to switch to blue wolf heavy to deal with the physical AOE damage areas. TK should be just as effective as the SK at keeping aggro so something to consider if you haven't already.

My group easily hits the debuff cap without a low dps warsmith taking up a slot. I was auto running patriots at 53 with no issues with my latest group for about 4.5-5m xp per hour. I have four party compositions at or above level 50. My highest level group consists of SK BH De PR SwS BD WC EE Bish which are 8x. EDIT : My highest level warsmith is on the live server and has been around since prelude and is 100something. I haven't logged into that server for a couple years now. EDIT 2 : The WS should definitely be out DPSing the TK which has even worse dps. TKs are defensive tanks with very little in the way of offensive capabilities. A warlock in blue leather with something as basic as cmg with kai should wreck the WS's dps when it's added. THe De should be already doing well beyond the dorf unless it's running around with a one handed mace or something equally silly.

That's quite sad if that's the case. You really should look into gearing the other dps properly and how to setup their skills/macros. I tossed my warsmith long ago because it wasn't keeping up with anything not even the tank. The pet does allow it to do better than you'd expect but it's still miles behind real summoners with basic gear. Granted my WS never made it to 80 so I can't compare at the highest end but I can tell you in the 70s it's a bad joke.

Please just remove dwarfs from the game and allow those with one to auto reroll to an actual useful class. There really is no reason to bring a dwarf along anymore. Their dps is abysmal, they are no longer useful for carrying or crafting shots, their crafting is basically useless, and now magically NcSoft has managed to make spoil even worse.

As I leveled up I found myself unable to afford shots on all my dps so I rationed down the number of DPS using shots. Once I hit 80+ I found myself only able to afford shots on one of my DPS. Even then I was only barely covering the costs with no hope to save up adena to buy gear upgrades. I was forced into running a second party in patriots to raise funds to upgrade gear and pay for extra shots. With these changes I'm definitely no longer paying for VIP on the second party and I'll probably just let the VIp fall off my mains as there's no point to gaining xp faster when I cannot afford the gear I need for the higher levels anyway. If I had known these changes were coming I would of re-rolled my fortune seeker into an Elemental Master for dat extra DPS on the cheap. Since ncsoft has managed to find a way to make spoil even more worthless than before. I do have to congratulate them on that as I hadn't thought it possible. At this point I petition they remove the dwarf class as they serve no purpose. Their existence just confuses the few new players the game gets a year... Post patch the optimal PVE party is basically a tank (assuming the DE summoner pet doesn't tank well enough) two healers a wc and a bunch of summoners because running shots is too expensive and BW leather on a summoner with a CMG is "good enough" for 80s... EDIT : My favorite part about this is how NcSoft continues to remove content every patch. It's like they don't understand that patches especially "big" hyped up patches like this are supposed to actually add stuff to the game. Things to do things to earn things to spend in game time doing...

I still don't know why they removed the common gear that would bind to your character. Having bind on pickup gear helped alleviate the gearing issue without feeding a bunch of gear into the market place. It's a pretty standard part of online games these days. One of my big gripes about the live server is the difficulty in getting gear to even participate in somewhat end game PVE. I don't even mean competing with the top 1% credit card warriors just the standard PVE stuff that most players never get to do because their gear is not good enough. I have had a hard time understanding some of Ncsoft's decisions in relation to lineage 2. Specifically why they removed game content that was present in the original classic from their "classic experience". They removed all the cool pet stuff. The AA necro/cata stuff. Even the manor system (you know the seed and harvest stuff). I'm sure if I sat down for a bit and looked at some screenshots I could remember more. They have all this content that they actively removed for no apparent reason. All these things that could be used to make the game experience more fun, rich and interactive. I used to AOE necro/catas on my dorf to farm symbols for the seven signs stuff. The competition of dawn vs dusk and the ability to make a decent income off the drops/AA added depth and options to the game for active players. Nope can't have that poof. Common items gave people the option to gear up a bit cheaper if they wanted.. nope can't have that... etc etc

The level restriction is an attempt to keep the botters from mass exploiting the events (at least slow them down). Without a level limit the dude running the ROA bots would score huge.. Then there's the other mass botters who would also benefit as well.

THe ones in ROA are particularly problematic because they take all the spots which then blocks newbies trying to do the newbie chain quest. Best you can do as a melee is to buy a bow and pray... The other areas aren't as big a deal as there are better places to level than ivory crater and sea of spores has room.

STR is more effective in this version. Light vs heavy depends on the scenario. AKA what class that is being used what type of PVE or PVP involved etc.

It's part of the newbie quest chain now. When you get sent to gludio after completing the quests in the starter village.

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Well I've never bought Ncoin off their site during the holidays so I'm not sure how much effect that has on it. I do know that there is always a delay for me up to a full day. Usually it's available the next day which is annoying. So I buy my Ncoins on amazon instead so I can get instant delivery.

During the early days of NA classic I was running nine desktops with one game client on each desktop because there were no auto repeating macros. I used USB num key pads I bought off amazon for $8 ea to control each client. I only have four screens so most of the clients were being played blindly. Was averaging one captcha a day inbetween all the bot report yelling. I'm sure Ingwaz knows that struggle With the current features it's almost trivial to do in comparison to the early days. I'm open to answering questions too.

I got lucky in ROA with my bishop in that some of the really far back areas were empty or mostly empty. Blasted through that quest asap and never came back. Last time I was there things were far different as evidenced in my post above. Indeed the gorgan garden area is over run with bots and auto hunters using mostly ponies. If you're melee you're going to really need to use a bow, shots, and pray/try for the last hit. Hardins academy and death pass are just not viable for anyone not running a bot right now. I did the quest by sitting in the middle of one of the open area spawns with auto hunt on casting. The bots are running everywhere there so they do at least keep the respawn stirred up. If you'd like to contact me in PM I can provide personalized assistance.

That's why he's complaining that they were bugged.. I don't get your point.

Check the event notes braw https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/16146-classic-server-maintenance-wednesday-december-11-2019/ Holiday Server Settings will start for four weeks: XP/SP Boost + 50% No XP Loss Upon Death Augmentation Removal Fee = 0 Adena Raid Boss Spawn Time Reduced by 50%