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5 people, 700 clients and a map too small.


Antonynt

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Hello, I have started to play again in late August after almost 8 years of being inactive since I am  a known l2 junky since 2003. Nowadays I dont have the time I had as a student to play 15 hrs a day but what I do have however is money to pour into the game in order to get a strong character.

What I noticed after the first month of playing is that there are specific people running 100+ clients each and the way the map is structured there is no place for people like me to farm. Thing is im not complaining for the game being pay to win I am actually happy about it cause I got a few bucks to push into the game in order to gain an edge. 

However, there are like 5 people running about 700 characters in every farm place there is  xp/drops/adena and its really hard for working people such as me to get a good farming spot.

My question is, do you guys want my money or I should just stop playing once again and find something else to stupidly spend my free time and money to. If you do want my money and I would like to spend like 300-1,000 euro a month in this game, give me a reason to do so... Expand the map, give us some instances that can be done on a day to day basis or just prevent people from running 100 clients each. Everybody that plays the game for a while knows who they are. Otherwise whats the point of playing if I cant really create something in game? If i want to gamble i can always go to the casino... I'd like to stupidly spend money in Lineahe 2 but thats only if I do have things to do in game!

Anybody else feel the same or close enough?

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If u spend that much u easily can open at least 10 L2 Clients, with that u can do a 9 PT plus 1 PK to farm in hard areas, cause bots normaly are in weak areas like Enchanted Valley - Devastated Camp - Ruins of Agony. (Bots are a problem) 

But you cannot make a claim for normal players, players who spend day and night 24/7, with multiple computers, spending a lot (Time, Money, Light, Etc). Just because you don't have the requirements to do it, you have to adapt, the players continually create new characters and everything to experiment, create an efficient way to generate Adena, we are all the same as you even at high-middle level, I'm at lvl 80 and Currently I am somewhat "stuck" because I am not strong enough to kill in areas where they give good resources, I have been in the same area for almost 3 months killing and improving my equipment.

The game is growing little by little (Chronicles), The game started to poluted just by this year but they can't put to you "NEW" areas or "CUSTOM" stuff just by ur crying, is a PVP-PVE Game, KILL THOSE GUYS, FIGHT AGAINST THEM, CREATE AN ALLY AND BUILD YOURSELF.

I'm solo-player I just farm with my 10 Accs in multiples areas, trying to grow and be stronger to be in a good clan.
It's part of the game, It's not a custom or easy game.

At the beginning it was created by Asians, it is a game that expects great difficulty to grow and be strong, do not expect everything given away, it is part of the entertainment, if you like it well, if not, it is not the problem of the creators.

If you continue playing, in time you will understand :)

If you need help or guidance on something, you can talk to me (DracoMalfoy)

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First of all I am level 80 my self and I am not stuck as you said you are. It's just not enough for me. Secondly I do play with 10 clients and I am running a pretty decent party with everything needed. I dont know why you are in the same area for 3 months trust me I wont be staying that long in any area cause I'm just bored. I'm not asking for new areas nor custom stuff but just to expand the map to include  areas that  used to be in the official servers back at c4 when there was real pvp and noone was farming 24/7 apart from the trains. Dont tell me about being custom or easy game cause most of the people playing here never experienced the hardcore grinding when the game  initially launched. .

Moreover and most importantly, people are running 100 clients just from 1 pc using programs to by pass and log all clients automatically. If someone is using 10 pc to run 10 clients each and he has devoted his life to this game thats his choice and I cant or wont compete with that cause its my choice. 

What I am asking is to be able to play! Like actively play. and there aren't much to do...

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1 hour ago, Antonynt said:

However, there are like 5 people running about 700 characters in every farm place there is  xp/drops/adena and its really hard for working people such as me to get a good farming spot.

If you plan on spending money you dont need farm spots with Adena, just farm in El. Zones then move to LoA etc.

 

1 hour ago, basty said:

The game is growing little by little (Chronicles), The game started to poluted just by this year but they can't put to you "NEW" areas or "CUSTOM" stuff just by ur crying, is a PVP-PVE Game, KILL THOSE GUYS, FIGHT AGAINST THEM, CREATE AN ALLY AND BUILD YOURSELF.

The problem is that 90% of those players are using 3rd party tools to aid them with automatic farming routines.  People shouldnt compete for resources against automated tools.

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Thank you for your post dude, I have seen your previous posts here and I know that you do have valid observations each time. I did followed your advice in previous posts and set up in GC. So I can farm adena, so I can get plvl. Then what? Need more instances, need bigger map...

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Hello. 

It will be fine open old locations for example from C4.

Forestet of the dead

Stakato nest

Catacomb in aligator island (Saints Necropolis)

Catacomb in Gorgon flower garden is there but is not open

Necropolis of Martyrdom.

Beast farm

also please add very nice town Heine and Rune.

 

If GM open this location it will be many place for farm. And this will solved problem with pk and find spot for farm...

 

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24 minutes ago, prusky said:

If GM open this location it will be many place for farm. And this will solved problem with pk and find spot for farm...

This will solve absolutely nothing, those areas will be full with bots in a matter of days along with their pk guards. The only solution is to remove the ability to farm tradable resources such as adena from low level trash mobs and maybe substitute for some kind of untradable newbie coin that will be tradable for resources such as soulshots, imprint gear etc. This way people could level up to endgame in peace and also have some basic gear.

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To fight bots maybe they could do this:

- Make the game B2P. Just 5$ or sthg with packages with conveniences.

- Make possible to chat/whisper if the character spent 5$. Like in GW2, so adena-seller spammers are quiet.

- Make possible to report adena-spammers, adena-bots. So if the bought the game, u ban them after they had to buy the game and spent 5$ with no option to them to refund their money.

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The quick and easy fix is to reduce more the areas of :Lair of antharas,Dragon valley,Imperial tomb and Tower of insolence.

 

Asking for opening the map will never happen ....

They had proved us that the won't do it .2 years+ now nothing had happened except changing the mobs in these 4 regios only.

 

So,please reduce more these regio ,so the people that are not having adrenaline and OP gear will stop spending there adena /time at elemental 76 zone while they are 84 lvl .

The region's above are wide enough for all server ,if eventually nerved enough.

 

Cheers 😘

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Hi all,

I also agree in opening of new "old" zones,

Heine zone : Field of Silence And Field of whispers (Garden of Eva is already there)

Rune zone : Beast farm, Windfall waterfall, Valley of Saints, Swamp of screams, Stakato nest, Monastery of Silence.

Schuttguart Zone : Crypts of disgrace, Den of evil, Archaic Laboratory, Pavel Ruins, Frozen Labyrinth, (Maybe Freya Instance)

 

For daily instances though, i strongly disagree, in my humble opinion its what made the Goddess of Destruction and above versions of the game not being LA2 any more, although Kamaloka was always there.

 

As for leveling experience, either we like it or not the game starts to have an impact in our daily routines after our main character hits 80 - 82 level wall, that is where we mostly need new areas for exp, areas though more like fog and goe and less like Forgotten island (both areas), your autohunt system is not compatible with open areas, times and times i have opened my monitor in the morning seeing my character standing still (for how long no one knows) and all mobs spawned on a rock out of range for him to target them, and after manually targeting them and killing them the spawn locations are back to normal for a couple of hours.

 

We need content that matters, not new pay to win items again and again, Even though as @Antonyntsaid i also am a person that i like to stupidly spend some money here rather than other alternatives, we dont need a revamped TOI that only the top of the top can farm and even they at maximum of 4th - 5th floor, we do not need a "revamped" Cruma tower that was ideal for 35 - 55 level adena farmers/sellers to overpopulate the place and now is overpopulated with 55 - 80 level (the same farmers they just not need to delevel that often). In other words "Revamping" is as new content as "Repainting" a new car

 

We need progress for all players and not only for the top p(l)ayers.

 

PS. New areas should make the game sustainable also, either reduce adena drops and make soul/spirit shots less expensive or make adena drops scale according to the difficulty of the fight for them (keeping the 70% drop chance for the rng)

 

PS2. We also need a game free of bugs (Like no elemental damage in certain skills) but there are a lot of posts for those issues too.

 

Sorry for the long post, there are a lot more to be said for sure.

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Bro with 300-1000€ yo spend in the game in monthly you should be able to farm in Toi or LoA and for sure GC and DV where there not bots or ppl or at least too many ppl , probably your problem isn't the 10 ppl who run 700 client but ncfail who make ppl spend thousands of dollars/euros so be able to farm in catacombs or in attribute zone and no near to go on LoA or toi ( cuz obviously you need third-party software) to farm there and only the top p2w items + epic Jewell's, otherwise don't spend every month no need just follow p2w events with your full pt + pk pony in a spot just for leveling and pk anyone who will try to claim it, 

In my honest opinion bro don't spend more than 50€ per event get your pt try to find a spot (depending on what you want) play semi-afk be natural to enjoy the afk farming without problems and spend that money to outdoor activities go buy a go-cart or something lol

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