L2 Team Conguero Posted July 27, 2018 L2 Team Share Posted July 27, 2018 Hello all, We've opened a new Future Updates Discussion forum to provide you with a centralized place to discuss Lineage II game content in South Korea and other regions. While game versions do vary in each region, we know many of you like to peek around the world to get an idea of what content, changes, and features might be coming to North America. We hope you'll utilize this new avenue to continue such conversations and find it easier to track them, now that they'll be filtered from our other forums. To get things started I'll be moving threads over to the Future Updates Discussion forum that have been active recently and fit the category. If there are any existing threads I might've missed that you feel would be better relocated to the new forum, please let me know. You can also pose any questions about the intended use of the new forum in reply to this thread. Thank you! Always, Conguero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth1ord Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Conguero said: You can also pose any questions about the intended use of the new forum in reply to this thread. Will any forum GM actively participate in the new "Future Updates" forum, or will it be as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yidao Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Juji used to have a Foreign Visitor Account for the Korean servers. If he logs in for a moment on the PTS and talks to a Town Blacksmith, he could easily clear up the doubts about the R99 -> R110 upgrading system (I assume JoyVoy used a standard weapon given out by the PTS Cats):https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2334-r110-grade-new-gear-on-korea-server/?tab=comments#comment-17374 Hime could help him with the dialogue screens. It just takes a few minutes: make a screenshot, trim it and post it in the R110 thread. Guesswork terminated, cold hard facts introduced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methodical Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, Yidao said: Juji used to have a Foreign Visitor Account for the Korean servers. If he logs in for a moment on the PTS and talks to a Town Blacksmith, he could easily clear up the doubts about the R99 -> R110 upgrading system (I assume JoyVoy used a standard weapon given out by the PTS Cats):https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2334-r110-grade-new-gear-on-korea-server/?tab=comments#comment-17374 Hime could help him with the dialogue screens. It just takes a few minutes: make a screenshot, trim it and post it in the R110 thread. Guesswork terminated, cold hard facts introduced its not how it works that might cost them their job and in corporations its not how emploees and the border, must act more professionally meaning the buisnes should care about that not the gm cm etc e.x hire an extra emploee or add a new job title, with a decision taken from the executive border, its a buisnes if you dont win money close your store simple, in case hey cant afford that extra new asett! cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneWingedAngle Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 If i good understand, this forum is place, where PLAYERS can post topic about new update. GM like always will appear, when we will have next big drama on forum. So this is place where ppl like @Yidao should pot post about new update. NCWest teached by prevoius update will not put anything until they have final patch notes from korea. Korea is busy now, coz in 3 days they introduce new big update with Fafurion. So probably NCWest still didnt get files from korea. Silence from our support confirming all opinion about staff and "future" update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yidao Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Conguero said: ... To get things started I'll be moving threads over to the Future Updates Discussion forum that have been active recently and fit the category. If there are any existing threads I might've missed that you feel would be better relocated to the new forum, please let me know. First of all let me say that setting up a dedicated Future Updates section was an excellent idea. First of all as a service for the players who don't have to search any more through the chaos of the General Discussion section to get information about new game content. Apart from that, it is also better to keep the discussion about future updates in a separate place to avoid misunderstandings. For many players English is not their first language and they get easily confused about what will be part of which update in which part of the world. And a halfways civilized discussion about future game content is also good for you and Neutron. In this way you can unobtrusively familiarize yourself with the problems looming ahead (Combat Spirit Crystals need to be introduced? An alternative payment must be found? Upgrading R99 to R110 will be cut out of the export version?) and devise counter-strategies. In that respect you as a moderator might want to decide on a case-by-case basis whether beer price discussions in a Fafurion topic provide additional entertainment value or whether they distract from the issue at hand and should be moved to a dedicated Innova vs. NCWest thread As far as additional threads in the Future Updates section are concerned, I would make one called "Bloody" for the PvP server that goes live on Monday, and possibly also one called "Arena". Here are posts that you could move to a Bloody thread:https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2314-the-game-moving-fwd/?tab=comments#comment-17110https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2314-the-game-moving-fwd/?tab=comments#comment-17156 (and the 2 following posts)https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2286-dimensional-siege-is-dead/?tab=comments#comment-16665https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2286-dimensional-siege-is-dead/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-16739 (and the following post)https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2277-introduce-new-l2-style-for-active-pvp-and-less-carebears/?tab=comments#comment-16471 (the whole thread) And here posts for an Arena thread:https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2286-dimensional-siege-is-dead/?tab=comments#comment-16666https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2286-dimensional-siege-is-dead/?tab=comments#comment-16668https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/1952-lineage-ii-july-preview/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-15349 (and the following post)https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/1776-a-way-to-revive-interest-in-l2/?tab=comments#comment-13812 (and the following post) And here a full thread that could be renamed "Crofin", even though at NCWest it will probably be wrapped into the Fafurion update:https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/1912-what-is-the-difference/?tab=comments#comment-14971 This could be merged into the Crofin thread:https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/1830-ncsoft-what-are-your-long-term-plans/?tab=comments#comment-14361 For the time being you should maybe keep the Crofin thread separate. When we know about the packaging for next year's update you could make a Fafurion sub-section in the Future Updates section where you collect all Fafurion and Crofin threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yidao Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, Methodical said: its not how it works that might cost them their job and in corporations its not how employees and the border, must act more professionally meaning the business should care about that not the gm cm etc e.x hire an extra employee or add a new job title, with a decision taken from the executive border, it's a business if you don't win money close your store simple, in case they can't afford that extra new asset! About two or three years ago I suggested to Juji (then Lineage 2 Producer) to assign BusterCasey to that task. He was a Korean linguist and as an ex-soldier had the necessary will to kill that is required to keep a content-oriented discussion civilized and on topic. Unfortunately NCWest couldn't afford that extra asset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiccUps Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Conguero said: Hello all, We've opened a new Future Updates Discussion forum to provide you with a centralized place to discuss Lineage II game content in South Korea and other regions. While game versions do vary in each region, we know many of you like to peek around the world to get an idea of what content, changes, and features might be coming to North America. We hope you'll utilize this new avenue to continue such conversations and find it easier to track them, now that they'll be filtered from our other forums. To get things started I'll be moving threads over to the Future Updates Discussion forum that have been active recently and fit the category. If there are any existing threads I might've missed that you feel would be better relocated to the new forum, please let me know. You can also pose any questions about the intended use of the new forum in reply to this thread. Thank you! Always, Conguero Just an FYI, there is a very diplomatic post asking you & neutron very simple questions....you would like to see ppl's money.....you have another update on the horizon...maybe you could answer the post...after all, do you want a server > 10v0 ....else, who's game are you updating with 10 clients at the end of the day who won't continue to spend their $ either. Have a great day & I truly look fwd to seeing an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beleaua Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Yidao said: About two or three years ago I suggested to Juji (then Lineage 2 Producer) to assign BusterCasey to that task. He was a Korean linguist and as an ex-soldier had the necessary will to kill that is required to keep a content-oriented discussion civilized and on topic. Unfortunately NCWest couldn't afford that extra asset His job was just to babysit but it wasn't just to babysit L2 forum. Look how active he was in Aion forum by the number of posts (http://forums.na.aiononline.com/na/showthread.php?t=147521) and he was also babysitting B&S forum (https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/profile/819087-bustercasey/). I don't know what else he did but in some chatting he mentioned he was taking care of several communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneWingedAngle Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, HiccUps said: Just an FYI, there is a very diplomatic post asking you & neutron very simple questions....you would like to see ppl's money.....you have another update on the horizon...maybe you could answer the post...after all, do you want a server > 10v0 ....else, who's game are you updating with 10 clients at the end of the day who won't continue to spend their $ either. Have a great day & I truly look fwd to seeing an answer Well, they will not answer to you(us) NCWest staff even do not check weekly mainatenace update. We got many hiden updates, w/o any infos. It looks like on NCWest's Lineage II departament works maybe one person. Now, we have the worst CM in MMO history. IT is shame, that whole NCWest staff dont care, about their customers. Silence from their site instead cold down players emotions, make them higher A lot of players is seraching new MMO or another L2 providers. This game is almost death right now. People are bored and angry,(even people with really good gear) It is big big shame. IF NCWest will not change their politics Lineage 2 will be shout down in 2 years. and the best solution to not see bad feedback is delete post and ban a writer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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