idkNick Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 to solve a pk-scam problem, just add a flag after losing your karma, as in old time. And everyone will be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanisPaegle Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 how is this going to help? I dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanisPaegle Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) first of all they should remove level gap influence on karma, so if you kill low level flagged character you get karma just cos he is low level, that is one abuse point (i have been told so , not tested) Secondary - replace item drop from pk with jail, you get 5 karma - you get teleoprted to jail for x hours, you cannot pk , after getting out of jail you need to do quest to clear karma , or use nc shop for that, and everyone is happy nobody likes to drop items, NOBODY LIKES THAT MECHANIC, except people who abuse it Edited April 20, 2019 by SMFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinaChucholina Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 its about at least 3 bugs, not a part of the "macro mechanic", these bugs persist no matter macro or "on hand" - Bug1: the player can get karma without PK, if kill some pet. Its simply not right: you suppose to get PK AND karma, not only karma. The result: when you kill someone in karma with 0 PK, you get karma AND PK :)))) Its not right: when you kill someone in karma, you not supposed to get karma+pk, you supposed to get reputation !! - Bug2: You hit karma-player, when you target a mob and use AOE skills with target. You dont hit flagged players in the same situation. Karma or not, its PC not NPC, so that is 100% BUG. - The result: If you kill someone in karma, you NOT supposed to get karma+pk, you supposed to get reputation !! The combination of these 2 bugs lead to the horrible consequences: lot of players, putted in illegal karma and dropped / scammed. This, in combination with NCSOFT full absence of support, lead to 1-2K less players and lot of unhappy ppl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanisPaegle Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 just you wait, in april 23 in russia lineage 2 essence or as they call it in korea Lineage 2 Aden will open, smart bot, game in 1 client , oriented to solo afk players, i know many who will at least go and test it there, it's a free market- if ncwest cannot provide what casuals want , someone else will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 please fix this problem ... today I was a victim and droped many things ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, Duncan said: please fix this problem ... today I was a victim and droped many things ... Let's hope you've learned your lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissMyKnife Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 its simple, who flagged, have 2 min to unflag, change this time, to forever, unflag only when its relog. problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinaChucholina Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 seems you didn't get it, KissMyKnife. Its a game mechanic BUG. you can put in ILLEGAL KARMA ANYONE, who use any AOE skill.. no matter flagging skill or not. no matter next target monster or not. no matter on macro or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helv Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/20/2019 at 6:46 AM, SMFC said: Secondary - replace item drop from pk with jail, you get 5 karma - you get teleoprted to jail for x hours, you cannot pk , after getting out of jail you need to do quest to clear karma , or use nc shop for that, and everyone is happy Haha, that's the most ridiculous idea I've seen so far lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonata666 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Scammers put players in Illegal karma using BUG. Find these scammers and BAN ALL their chars! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 While I do agree that this is indeed a bug that they are exploiting the solution is 100% obvious. Stop macro botting. Easy fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenCrusher Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 5:12 AM, Duncan said: please fix this problem ... today I was a victim and droped many things ... & this was so avoidable. Perhaps a refresher quote from Draecke is in order ?? On 4/24/2019 at 4:49 AM, Draecke said: solution is simple, play the game as it is supposed to be played as per Korean game design aka Live with macro's as support to make the grind easier and not 24/7 AFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonata666 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Macro system is legal, bots are not, remember? There are lot of botters unpunished as well, not only scammers, but its not the point of this discussion. The BUG have nothing to do with macro system. You can be putted in ILLEGAL KARMA until play active by the same way.. Edited April 27, 2019 by Sonata666 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirrow Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 19/04/2019 at 5:48 PM, idkNick said: to solve a pk-scam problem, just add a flag after losing your karma, as in old time. And everyone will be happy yea, the best and simplest way to solve is to disable the macro system and leave only the bot`s working and everything is resolved in NCWEST xD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinaChucholina Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Spirrow: Okay, but even they do that.. What? And until when? Until the next BUG with ZERO consequences for abusers? ZERO in game Support. + Zero transparency. + Zero GM's forum activity. -------------------- = GMs - encouraging and protecting scammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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