Kaloba Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hello all! I am a new player and would like to purchase the 'Prestige Pack'. Reading the description of the signature contains the following information: Increases Item drop rate +100% Increases Spoil drop rate +100% My question is a bit complex. A particular item, for example, has the following chance of falling into a monster: 0.001% - 0.005% With the package then the chance of 'drop' of this same item would be 100% more, ie it would be 100.001%. Mathematically an item that 'drops' in this percentage (100.001%) means that every time I kill the monster I will get the item. Is that so? Can someone who owns the package or someone on the team enlighten me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightRider Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 The math is 0.001% x 100% meaning the drop rate of the item will be 0.10% I hope this is helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaloba Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, LightRider said: The math is 0.001% x 100% meaning the drop rate of the item will be 0.10% I hope this is helpful. Are you sure friend? In the website is '+' not 'x'... But, I think +100% will be overkill You have the 'prestige pack'? @LightRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degamad Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Wouldn't it be .001% + 100% = .002% ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightRider Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Kaloba said: Are you sure friend? In the website is '+' not 'x'... But, I think +100% will be overkill You have the 'prestige pack'? @LightRider Yes I do. It is a simple math problem. 1 minute ago, degamad said: Wouldn't it be .001% + 100% = .002% ?? No. You are dealing with different percentages with different decimal points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaloba Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, degamad said: Wouldn't it be .001% + 100% = .002% ?? If you add 100% over some value this will be plus 100%. In your example, it would be: 0.001 % + 100.000 % = 100.001 % And when you get 100% chance of 'drop' some item. You ALWAYS will drop that... So I made this question to help me understand how the system works... The other player is talking about 0.001 x 100 = 0.010 % and I have the impression it would be: 0.001 % + 100.000 % = 100.001 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degamad Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 100% of .001 is adding another .001 period 100% of 50 is adding another 50 for a total of 100. adding 100% drop rate for a .001% drop turns the drop rate into a .002% Am i wrong on this according to NCsoft math? Edited November 15, 2019 by degamad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightRider Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Kaloba said: If you add 100% over some value this will be plus 100%. In your example, it would be: 0.001 % + 100.000 % = 100.001 % And when you get 100% chance of 'drop' some item. You ALWAYS will drop that... So I made this question to help me understand how the system works... The other player is talking about 0.001 x 100 = 0.010 % and I have the impression it would be: 0.001 % + 100.000 % = 100.001 % Bro, they would not sell an item in this game that would give you a chance to get all the items that a mob drops since a mob typically has multiple items in their drop table, with your math you are implying you have 100.001% chance that everything will drop from a mob. With my math which I believe is correct is you have a higher chance for items to drop by 0.10% if the drop rate is at a base of 0.001%. @Juji Can you back me up on this and provide the correct math if I am wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeckyBuilder Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 You can argue about 0.10 or 0.02 being the value with rune in that example, which I always have figured at 0.100 based on the math I know ie if you are dealing with percentages a 100% increase in chance is moving decimal points, in this case 2 decimal points from 0.001 to 0.100. What I can absolutely tell you is no, you will not have 100.01 "always get that item" chance. I run with 200% drop rate consistently I would be richer then my dreams in L2 if that was the case, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srelock Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 hours ago, degamad said: Wouldn't it be .001% + 100% = .002% ?? That is the right answer +100% means 1x server settings if it was only 100% than the OP would be right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 hours ago, BeckyBuilder said: You can argue about 0.10 or 0.02 being the value with rune in that example, which I always have figured at 0.100 based on the math I know ie if you are dealing with percentages a 100% increase in chance is moving decimal points, in this case 2 decimal points from 0.001 to 0.100. What I can absolutely tell you is no, you will not have 100.01 "always get that item" chance. I run with 200% drop rate consistently I would be richer then my dreams in L2 if that was the case, lol. Your math is..... amazing 0.001+100% of the multiplied value is 0.002. Technically if you multiply by 100%, you're multiplying by 1, which will return the same value. In this case it's addition of 100% of the initial value (0.001). Therefore: 0.001 x 200% = 0.002 or 0.001 + 0.001 = 0.002 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaloba Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, LightRider said: Bro, they would not sell an item in this game that would give you a chance to get all the items that a mob drops since a mob typically has multiple items in their drop table, with your math you are implying you have 100.001% chance that everything will drop from a mob. With my math which I believe is correct is you have a higher chance for items to drop by 0.10% if the drop rate is at a base of 0.001%. @Juji Can you back me up on this and provide the correct math if I am wrong. Thanks! As I say before (I am a new player) and I just want to be sure about the % of prestige... Thanks all. Now I got it 14 hours ago, BeckyBuilder said: You can argue about 0.10 or 0.02 being the value with rune in that example, which I always have figured at 0.100 based on the math I know ie if you are dealing with percentages a 100% increase in chance is moving decimal points, in this case 2 decimal points from 0.001 to 0.100. What I can absolutely tell you is no, you will not have 100.01 "always get that item" chance. I run with 200% drop rate consistently I would be richer then my dreams in L2 if that was the case, lol. Thanks man! Edited November 15, 2019 by Kaloba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaloba Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Another question: Does it apply only to the player who owns the package or will everyone in the 'party' have the benefit? Is it something individual only? @LightRider @BeckyBuilder @mixa @Srelock @degamad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HItEye Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kaloba said: Otra pregunta: ¿Se aplica solo al jugador que posee el paquete o todos los miembros del "grupo" tendrán el beneficio? ¿Es algo individual solamente? @LightRider @BeckyBuilder @mixa @Srelock @degamad individual only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxximilian Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Kaloba said: Another question: Does it apply only to the player who owns the package or will everyone in the 'party' have the benefit? Is it something individual only? @LightRider @BeckyBuilder @mixa @Srelock @degamad The bonus will be divided between all the party members. If you got a 300% adena drop rune and you are in a 2 ppl party its like you both would have a 150% bonus, 3 ppl pt -> 100% bouns... In your 0.001 drop chance example, in a 3 ppl party with one of you having a +100% drop rune, the actual chance of get the item will be 0.0013333... Almost the same chance. The +300% adena bonus helps a little bit, but the only worthy item on that pack is the Eva's Rune with the -20% cooldown and +10% hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeckyBuilder Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 10 hours ago, mixa said: Your math is..... amazing Thanks lol, I was definitely wrong 10,000% percent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degamad Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 12 hours ago, mixa said: Your math is..... amazing 0.001+100% of the multiplied value is 0.002. Technically if you multiply by 100%, you're multiplying by 1, which will return the same value. In this case it's addition of 100% of the initial value (0.001). Therefore: 0.001 x 200% = 0.002 or 0.001 + 0.001 = 0.002 Thank you guys for backing me up on this i was starting to question my math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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