Valentines event 2023 versus 2022 - why ?

[TEVAS]

4 minutes ago, AshesOfAden said:

@TEVAS

if its true ppl can start seling rubys and redcats before not to late  ( but l rly daubt )

[AshesOfAden]

Just now, TEVAS said:

if its true ppl can start seling rubys and redcats before not to late  ( but l rly daubt )

As I said in here everything is divided by 2 or by 6 or by 12 its up to hermes how fast he want to kill this game , In KR i spent 40~50b and I managed to make level 5 on pve server

[ikanair]

48 minutes ago, AshesOfAden said:

If someone is wondering about rates and putting a lot of hopes to finaly improve character, stop dreaming:

 

 

 

Level 2 5%

 

Level 3 5%

 

Level 4 5%

 

Level 5 3%

 

Level 6 3%

 

Level 7 2%

 

Level 8 2%

 

Level 9 1%

 

Level 10 1%

 

 

 

You will need 1kk ice to have a decent chance to make it to level 7~8, 

 

Which will cost -100b + 15kk enchanting fee every time you click...

 

 

 

If someone have a lot of hopes then please dont , unless you just remortgage your house and have spare 10k $ to spend on free event...

The Freya's Ice Doll can be enhanced up to level 10 using Dry Ice as material and an Adena fee. If the enhancement fails, the doll is not destroyed, and the enhancement level is maintained. 

 

			Dry ice price	100,000
			Cost each try+Dry Ice	15,100,000
Freya doll Level	%chance	Tries required	Adena cost
1			1,000,000
2	5	20	302,000,000
3	5	20	302,000,000	605,000,000
4	5	20	302,000,000	907,000,000
5	3	33.3333333333	503,333,333	1,410,333,333
6	3	33.3333333333	503,333,333	1,913,666,667
7	2	50	755,000,000	2,668,666,667
8	2	50	755,000,000	3,423,666,667
9	1	100	1,510,000,000	4,933,666,667
10	1	100	1,510,000,000	6,443,666,667
			6,443,666,667

 

I got it wrong? 6B for a top ruby?

 

[AshesOfAden]

2 minutes ago, ikanair said:

The Freya's Ice Doll can be enhanced up to level 10 using Dry Ice as material and an Adena fee. If the enhancement fails, the doll is not destroyed, and the enhancement level is maintained. 

 

			Dry ice price	100,000
			Cost each try+Dry Ice	15,100,000
Freya doll Level	%chance	Tries required	Adena cost
1			1,000,000
2	5	20	302,000,000
3	5	20	302,000,000	605,000,000
4	5	20	302,000,000	907,000,000
5	3	33.3333333333	503,333,333	1,410,333,333
6	3	33.3333333333	503,333,333	1,913,666,667
7	2	50	755,000,000	2,668,666,667
8	2	50	755,000,000	3,423,666,667
9	1	100	1,510,000,000	4,933,666,667
10	1	100	1,510,000,000	6,443,666,667
			6,443,666,667

 

I got it wrong? 6B for a top ruby?

 

Dam with your math I wouldn't have spent 920 circlet scrolls to make +7.. it would probably took me fraction of this as rates were better than 1%

[ikanair]

7 minutes ago, AshesOfAden said:

Dam with your math I wouldn't have spent 920 circlet scrolls to make +7.. it would probably took me fraction of this as rates were better than 1%

They heard us.. and giving everyone a change at reasonable price..

or

They will change the promotion and rates

[Rotten]

18 minutes ago, ikanair said:

The Freya's Ice Doll can be enhanced up to level 10 using Dry Ice as material and an Adena fee. If the enhancement fails, the doll is not destroyed, and the enhancement level is maintained. 

 

			Dry ice price	100,000
			Cost each try+Dry Ice	15,100,000
Freya doll Level	%chance	Tries required	Adena cost
1			1,000,000
2	5	20	302,000,000
3	5	20	302,000,000	605,000,000
4	5	20	302,000,000	907,000,000
5	3	33.3333333333	503,333,333	1,410,333,333
6	3	33.3333333333	503,333,333	1,913,666,667
7	2	50	755,000,000	2,668,666,667
8	2	50	755,000,000	3,423,666,667
9	1	100	1,510,000,000	4,933,666,667
10	1	100	1,510,000,000	6,443,666,667
			6,443,666,667

 

I got it wrong? 6B for a top ruby?

 

There is a reason rates aren't posted for ncwest...  they already nerfed from Korea rewards by what 5x?? So I am only to assume the rates are 5x worse at best.

So if NCwest follows what they have always done using your math. Rough guess your looking at 1.3tril adena for a lv10

[AshesOfAden]

7 minutes ago, ikanair said:

They heard us.. and giving everyone a change at reasonable price..

or

They will change the promotion and rates

You have to calculate probability not a chance in your calculation which you have tried to show , you have chance which is 1%(set by NCKorea) and you need to calculate probability of success to get that 1% successfully,  so formula kind of different for your calculation and I doubt that they give better rates , more likely reduced rates

[ikanair]

Just now, Rotten said:

There is a reason rates aren't posted for ncwest...  they already nerfed from Korea rewards by what 5x?? So I am only to assume the rates are 5x worse at best.

So if NCwest follows what they have always done using your math. Rough guess your looking at 1.3tril adena

If rates are 

10x worse = top ruby = 60b
100x worse = top ruby = 600b ....  <<< NCWEST really loves us soo much 

[ANobody]

1 hour ago, AshesOfAden said:

If someone is wondering about rates and putting a lot of hopes to finaly improve character, stop dreaming:

 

 

 

Level 2 5%

 

Level 3 5%

 

Level 4 5%

 

Level 5 3%

 

Level 6 3%

 

Level 7 2%

 

Level 8 2%

 

Level 9 1%

 

Level 10 1%

 

 

 

You will need 1kk ice to have a decent chance to make it to level 7~8, 

 

Which will cost -100b + 15kk enchanting fee every time you click...

 

 

 

If someone have a lot of hopes then please dont , unless you just remortgage your house and have spare 10k $ to spend on free event...

I disagree:

Looks like 6 to 7 is 0.12%

[AshesOfAden]

6 minutes ago, ikanair said:

If rates are 

10x worse = top ruby = 60b
100x worse = top ruby = 600b ....  <<< NCWEST really loves us soo much 

For the future referance how to calculate probability I know people always got confused with chances and probability there is a formula explanation also :))

https://www.calculator.net/probability-calculator.html

[AshesOfAden]

28 minutes ago, ikanair said:

If rates are 

10x worse = top ruby = 60b
100x worse = top ruby = 600b ....  <<< NCWEST really loves us soo much 

When you are calculating the probability of succeeding (enchanting/opening box)
You are trigering odds (which is for ex: 1%) so its 1 to 100 so each individual click have a chance to fail 99.0099% to fail , so you need to set number of events(which is clicks or enchants you have available) and calculate probability in this scenario.

Kind of easy example you have 100 enchants and 1% success rate.
So on each enchant you are trigering 99.0099% fail rate and 0.9901% success rate. 
So your probability to succeed to make successful enchant wont mean that 100 scrolls will guarantee it, i think that's kind of easy explanation how probability works in the previous post i pasted a link with full formula which you can use to have a guaranteed success.

[ikanair]

1 minute ago, AshesOfAden said:

When you are calculating the probability of succeeding (enchanting/opening box)
You are trigering odds (which is for ex: 1%) so its 1 to 100 so each individual click have a chance to fail 99.0099% to fail , so you need to set number of events(which is clicks or enchants you have available) and calculate probability in this scenario.

Kind of easy example you have 100 enchants and 1% success rate.
So on each enchant you are trigering 99.0099% fail rate and 0.9901% success rate. 
So your probability to succeed to make successful enchant wont mean that 100 scrolls will guarantee it, i think that's kind of easy explanation how probability works in the previous post i pasted a link with full formula which you can use to have a guaranteed success.

Thank you for this, TIL

and now i need lots of coffee to digest the info

[AshesOfAden]

27 minutes ago, ANobody said:

I disagree:

Looks like 6 to 7 is 0.12%

I aint go that far run out of adena our rates will be 0.12 / 7=0.1 
Well sounds about right...

[AshesOfAden]

10 minutes ago, ikanair said:

Thank you for this, TIL

and now i need lots of coffee to digest the info

Happy to help , as a lot of people got mistaken with a chances and probabilities quite easy to get confused , people like nc soft they place boxes and we consumers triger probability,  Im doing kind of similar thing for a living just for Android , obviously not above insanity "level" as ncsoft but , thats my job to calculate how many consumers we have and how many possible outcomes, with different chances, probabilities , 
Geeky stuff

[MadMage]

Guys do you need passport for Korea ? Wana  move there.....

[Elementz]

Dragon Weapon Box (Fragment) - Rare 

so for 2x level 10 dolls you get ... 2 fragments. lol

[Siri]

@NCW staff: WTT Dragon Weapon Fragments for lv. 10 dolls (since i see you think the DW Frags are mega rare here )

[Mitzza]

6 hours ago, AshesOfAden said:

If someone is wondering about rates and putting a lot of hopes to finaly improve character, stop dreaming:

 

 

 

Level 2 5%

 

Level 3 5%

 

Level 4 5%

 

Level 5 3%

 

Level 6 3%

 

Level 7 2%

 

Level 8 2%

 

Level 9 1%

 

Level 10 1%

 

 

 

You will need 1kk ice to have a decent chance to make it to level 7~8, 

 

Which will cost -100b + 15kk enchanting fee every time you click...

 

 

 

If someone have a lot of hopes then please dont , unless you just remortgage your house and have spare 10k $ to spend on free event...

I don't know where you got this rates but they are rong.

[Helv]

Good luck in getting a response on the Valentines event question.... They really show in every possible way that they want us to quit... yet here we are, posting, being engaged. This is sad

 

[Nothing]

3 hours ago, Siri said:

@NCW staff: WTT Dragon Weapon Fragments for lv. 10 dolls (since i see you think the DW Frags are mega rare here )

Which will costs you about 700-900b to make..

[Siri]

@Nothing that's why i offer them a straight trade. i think i have 3 or 4 dw frags which i gladly trade for lv10 dolls

[Nothing]

The only trade they know is when you give them $ and get nothing in return  @Siri

[Tercill]

10 hours ago, ikanair said:

They heard us.. and giving everyone a change at reasonable price..

or

They will change the promotion and rates

Im hoping they heard us

hermes posting the event is a big clue that something is going on

[Helv]

7 minutes ago, Tercill said:

Im hoping they heard us

hermes posting the event is a big clue that something is going on

lol, keep dreaming Hermes works the same way as Wissp, you should know it by now

[Elementz]

5% to go to lvl 2. lmao