Kokusho Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 21 hours ago, Zanfire said: This is not true at all. Only a very small handful of people are in the forums complaining. the vast majority of players are in game actually playing the game. We're talking maybe a few dozen players complaining (I'm sure it's less than 100 players, seeing as you see the same names over and over complaining), but there's thousands of players not complaining and just enjoying the game. So please, understand that you're in the minority in wanting these changes. Don't talk as if you're the voice for the whole NA Classic community, because most do not agree with you. True, most of them quit instead of complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanfire Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Kokusho said: True, most of them quit instead of complaining. Can you show me where you have the statistics showing most people quitting? Because online numbers are still as strong as before. If you want to bring up numbers and words like "most" and "majority", bring numbers to back it up... The game is not perfect, but please stop trying to make it look like most people have huge problems with it. Voice your opinion in a reasonable manner with no pretense or lies and you'll get better results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zanfire said: Can you show me where you have the statistics showing most people quitting? Because online numbers are still as strong as before. If you want to bring up numbers and words like "most" and "majority", bring numbers to back it up... The game is not perfect, but please stop trying to make it look like most people have huge problems with it. Voice your opinion in a reasonable manner with no pretense or lies and you'll get better results. Hahaha bot number too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanfire Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, kupuldog said: Hahaha bot number too. Unfortunately yes. Bots are very hard to fight and I wish there could just be removed from the game permanently. But the fact that there are bots, and have been since day 1, doesn't take away from the thousands of players online at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokusho Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Zanfire said: Can you show me where you have the statistics showing most people quitting? Because online numbers are still as strong as before. If you want to bring up numbers and words like "most" and "majority", bring numbers to back it up... The game is not perfect, but please stop trying to make it look like most people have huge problems with it. Voice your opinion in a reasonable manner with no pretense or lies and you'll get better results. Wanna know how many people are actually playing? Do this, server max pop. - (shops+fishing+afk+boxes+bots) and u will see what you think is a "full server", aint that full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Zanfire said: Unfortunately yes. Bots are very hard to fight and I wish there could just be removed from the game permanently. But the fact that there are bots, and have been since day 1, doesn't take away from the thousands of players online at all times. I started farming spider nest today for some extra adena. There were ~10 bots around me at 1 time (majority spoilers), my dipslay range set on 3rd tick. I have submited ticket with shit tone of bots, oh support will have some fun at work (or not as I don't really see the results from my reports)... It's even harder to fight when some bots are running with VIP 4-3s. It looks like "Money or ban... money or ban.. bleep it.. money.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, Zanfire said: Unfortunately yes. Bots are very hard to fight and I wish there could just be removed from the game permanently. But the fact that there are bots, and have been since day 1, doesn't take away from the thousands of players online at all times. oh and you know what? The best part from today, I met a bot I've reported 2 weeks ago. 2 bleepin weeks ago. Now that bot is a buffer 30+ level shilen oracle and an owner was leveling up in spider nest + doing quest with good gear and very cool buffs from his 30+ SE ex bot. Some backstory about him. 2 weeks ago there were 3 dark elf mages with very similar nicknames, I will disclose 1 of them. Empower25, you can pm him, it's his buffer. All of them with debuffs eventually as i'm that "azzhole" who starts encouraging people to push report button on them. All 3 were debuffed and still active. Is it really so hard to catch them? We can start discussion about different games, "Illegal servers". It's the biggest number of bots I have ever seen, I haven't seen such a huge number of bots in any other server or game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceAge Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 57 minutes ago, Hatecraft said: The problem is (I suspect) you don't see the benefit of farming in the same spot as it applies to drops. Let's say an item has a 1% drop rate. if you kill 100 mobs, then the chances that the item will drop significantly increases. Now, it's true that someone may come behind you and get the item, but that's how chance works. Your better off staying in one spot though, in the event the mobs have been killed enough to drop their item. Wait brah! On 10/22/2018 at 4:16 AM, Hatecraft said: #1 I never said to stop until you get a full drop in a spot. Don't quote me on stuff I didn't even say brah. What about this ?! Now you are .. turning around and change the subject? Nice dodge there. Anyway , your idea to stay in 1 spot for increasing chances to get a full drop is bad. Full drop are rare and should be optional in Lineage 2 as they always been. The problem with this server does not get resolved with .. 1 full item as a drop. I hope you get that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, Zanfire said: Can you show me where you have the statistics showing most people quitting? Because online numbers are still as strong as before. If you want to bring up numbers and words like "most" and "majority", bring numbers to back it up... The game is not perfect, but please stop trying to make it look like most people have huge problems with it. Voice your opinion in a reasonable manner with no pretense or lies and you'll get better results. Its third week, and its monday night now, before at this time we had full server with queue on Giran, and now its not even Heavy anymore and no queue at this time, btw 25% are bots and boxes so just wait till the server colapses, I played till now but also having doubts about this project... its a failure of a server and just a quick money grab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Zanfire said: Unfortunately yes. Bots are very hard to fight and I wish there could just be removed from the game permanently. But the fact that there are bots, and have been since day 1, doesn't take away from the thousands of players online at all times. Extra fact. It does take, because bots can get debuff only once a day for 1 hour (if I remember correctly), after it's over, they can farm as much as they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sour Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 54 minutes ago, Kokusho said: Im a lvl 41+ BountyHunter, leveled at the best AOE spots with a pole till lvl 37 and Im still poor as f....k. So I went to cruma to spoil Mordeos for animal bones only to realize that instead of mordeos spoiling 1-17 with around 80% chance, they spoil only 1.... sometimes. Not broken at all. @Juji This^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpmorg Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 so part of the reason people wont share is that will hurt there market. im only playing lightly 24 atm on a dwarf but i have 2 d weapons 3-4 ng a decent stockpile of mats and about 200k in cash not rolling in it but i am comfortable here is one way that a lot of people did make money the box event sit down there instead of selling in town wake up to 40-50 boxes maybe you get lucky maybe not. another current way make a level 1 dwarf and go spoil base mat recipes and sell them for 4k or so each a lot pf people leveled right past those mobs when the spawn was broken i think steel only spoils from a level 8 mob as for the guy complaining about a spot so spoil charcoal why ? you can spoil cokes off of the orcs in the plains of Dion at a rate of about 1 in 12 thats like spoiling 3 and 3 coal for only 12 mobs, you have to think smart about what your doing for money the advantage of a dwarf is not to go out and spoil 100 a bones on 300 mobs its to spoil 100 cbp out of 300 mobs no one but a dwarf can even dream of something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceAge Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Hpmorg said: so part of the reason people wont share is that will hurt there market. im only playing lightly 24 atm on a dwarf but i have 2 d weapons 3-4 ng a decent stockpile of mats and about 200k in cash not rolling in it but i am comfortable here is one way that a lot of people did make money the box event sit down there instead of selling in town wake up to 40-50 boxes maybe you get lucky maybe not. another current way make a level 1 dwarf and go spoil base mat recipes and sell them for 4k or so each a lot pf people leveled right past those mobs when the spawn was broken i think steel only spoils from a level 8 mob as for the guy complaining about a spot so spoil charcoal why ? you can spoil cokes off of the orcs in the plains of Dion at a rate of about 1 in 12 thats like spoiling 3 and 3 coal for only 12 mobs, you have to think smart about what your doing for money the advantage of a dwarf is not to go out and spoil 100 a bones on 300 mobs its to spoil 100 cbp out of 300 mobs no one but a dwarf can even dream of something like that Shut up please. Level 24 with 2 d weapons and 3-4 ng ?! How many alts do you have ? And you play lightly ? And 200k in cash ? So all you are saying you did money by doing nothing and stayed at the boss event ? Wow! You have no idea what you are talking about. Look who's defending the rates. A "bot" not playing the game, but afk-ing and giving advices. BLOWS MY bleepING MIND! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzeo Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Or he plays "casually" for 16 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Hpmorg said: so part of the reason people wont share is that will hurt there market. im only playing lightly 24 atm on a dwarf but i have 2 d weapons 3-4 ng a decent stockpile of mats and about 200k in cash not rolling in it but i am comfortable here is one way that a lot of people did make money the box event sit down there instead of selling in town wake up to 40-50 boxes maybe you get lucky maybe not. another current way make a level 1 dwarf and go spoil base mat recipes and sell them for 4k or so each a lot pf people leveled right past those mobs when the spawn was broken i think steel only spoils from a level 8 mob as for the guy complaining about a spot so spoil charcoal why ? you can spoil cokes off of the orcs in the plains of Dion at a rate of about 1 in 12 thats like spoiling 3 and 3 coal for only 12 mobs, you have to think smart about what your doing for money the advantage of a dwarf is not to go out and spoil 100 a bones on 300 mobs its to spoil 100 cbp out of 300 mobs no one but a dwarf can even dream of something like that so back in the school when you cheated on your test and accidentally got A, you felt like you're really smart and went around to bleep to people how smart are you, right? Cheating doesn't count, there's a reason why they canceled this event. Thanks for wtf moment, it made me laugh and facepalm so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpmorg Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 and you wonder why you dont get help enjoy being pore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillahouse Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 So Ive made millions in adena already. Made about 300k yesterday alone. You cant just hope in 9 man parties and expect to be rich. I made a 3 man party, 1 main 2 boxes, I make about 15k-18k per buff round if I get a decent spot. Thats it. I get all the drops and adena, and if I get tired I can join a 9 man random party and waste shots but have fun doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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