OficialneMON Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I see a lot of stores in the game, I think it's a good part of the number of people logged in. Why not deploy the offline store so others can get to play? Vote in the poll to know the opinion of the players: https://strawpoll.com/87c323ph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
existenz Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 no, too much lag, too much private server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OficialneMON Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, existenz said: no, too much lag, too much private server It does not have to have effect, as in private servers. I think it would be ideal, would "free up" a lot of game space for new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 offlineshop is a custom feature of private servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabala Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Draven said: offlineshop is a custom feature of private servers This! Plus, it will STILL take the spots. Is not like if you use an "offline shop" , you make room for other player. Nope, you are still counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabloidex Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 7:07 PM, existenz said: no, too much lag, too much private server *To the sellers of computers and spare parts like this* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 This is not a private server. Offline shops will only cause more problems, since it tricks the server that the player is online. You'll get 1000+ queue even on VIPs then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikcen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 1:01 AM, OficialneMON said: I see a lot of stores in the game, I think it's a good part of the number of people logged in. Why not deploy the offline store so others can get to play? Vote in the poll to know the opinion of the players: https://strawpoll.com/87c323ph In fact very good idea. On the private servers all the problems listed above are already fixed. The offline shop does not count as an online player, but as NPC. So that wil really free a lot of space and reduce significantly the queue. It is in general smart solution. Why a player should stay AFK taking the place of another player, when the shop could be offline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutWutWut Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ikcen said: In fact very good idea. On the private servers all the problems listed above are already fixed. The offline shop does not count as an online player, but as NPC. So that wil really free a lot of space and reduce significantly the queue. It is in general smart solution. Why a player should stay AFK taking the place of another player, when the shop could be offline? Just auctioner to sell your shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikcen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, WutWutWut said: Just auctioner to sell your shit Indeed, but there is not auction. This is a smart solution, and it is made on the private servers for a reason, as they have much limited resources. Yes, you may have lag in certain areas - depends on your PC and connection speed, but this is a lag from many NPCs on one place. This is also fixable - on the private servers they made harbors exclusive trade zones for offline shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poultrygeist Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 No, there is a technical side that you do not seem to understand. And making a poll will not change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikcen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Poultrygeist said: No, there is a technical side that you do not seem to understand. And making a poll will not change that. Obviously you do not understand the technical side. As I say - the offline shop is NPC, it is not a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poultrygeist Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 You just proved my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikcen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Poultrygeist said: You just proved my point Dude, hundreds of servers use that as solution for queue, but you think you are smarter? Your point is stupid nonsense. It is too much private - is not a valid argument. It is working, and this is the only important thing. The offline shops will free a lot of space. Maybe you do not know, but when you use the offline shop command, you are automatically disconnected from the server. That is how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Ikcen said: Dude, hundreds of servers use that as solution for queue, but you think you are smarter? Your point is stupid nonsense. It is too much private - is not a valid argument. It is working, and this is the only important thing. The offline shops will free a lot of space. Maybe you do not know, but when you use the offline shop command, you are automatically disconnected from the server. That is how it works. Here's where you little theory gets blown up. Yes, hundreds of L2J servers use this, yes hundreds of server with code specific hooks that are injected into the server code use this. NCSOFT DOES NOT USE BULLSHIT L2J, NOR extenders for their code. Learn the difference between legit code and L2J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beleaua Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 since 2003 they haven't done it in any of their games. they are not going to start now. even more when in korea ncsoft has more to gain by having lineage or any of their games open at internet cafes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikcen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Arinulis said: Here's where you little theory gets blown up. Yes, hundreds of L2J servers use this, yes hundreds of server with code specific hooks that are injected into the server code use this. NCSOFT DOES NOT USE BULLSHIT L2J, NOR extenders for their code. Learn the difference between legit code and L2J. Not only Java servers. L2J - is java based server. But all the private servers use it. I mean you have not any valid argument against the offline shops. Even one. So you start to imagine false arguments. There is not any technical reason that prevents the offline shops here. To implement offline shops here will be as easy as the last patch they made. It is easy and effective, that is why all the private servers use it. Why NCSoft do not? Well most of their servers are not very populated so the queue is not a big problem. And if they count the AFK players as active players, they get better statistics - I'm only guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Ikcen said: Not only Java servers. L2J - is java based server. But all the private servers use it. I mean you have not any valid argument against the offline shops. Even one. So you start to imagine false arguments. There is not any technical reason that prevents the offline shops here. To implement offline shops here will be as easy as the last patch they made. It is easy and effective, that is why all the private servers use it. Why NCSoft do not? Well most of their servers are not very populated so the queue is not a big problem. And if they count the AFK players as active players, they get better statistics - I'm only guessing. Do you realize the amount of code rewrites it would take to add this functionality? Do you think we haven't wanted something like this since 2003? Let me explain to you what would need to be done. First they would have to send the suggestion to NC Korea, who would then have to allocate a programming team to implement this fix in their code. Then it would need to be tested for months on end and finally sent to NCWest to be tested and pushed via a patch. In the end, it's just not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikcen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, Arinulis said: Do you realize the amount of code rewrites it would take to add this functionality? Do you think we haven't wanted something like this since 2003? Let me explain to you what would need to be done. First they would have to send the suggestion to NC Korea, who would then have to allocate a programming team to implement this fix in their code. Then it would need to be tested for months on end and finally sent to NCWest to be tested and pushed via a patch. In the end, it's just not happening. 30 minutes ago, Arinulis said: Learn the difference between legit code and L2J. - and what is the difference I do not know a computer language named "legit", maybe there is one, but I doubt L2 Classic servers use it. You have no idea what you are talking about obviously. Yes, I realize the amount of time. About 20 minutes on PHP. It took more time to implement and test the code - 1,5 hours to be exact. And they did not ask NCSoft Korea as they did not change anything in the game code. The change was only on the US/EU logging servers. Also - tested for months? This is not a new medicine dude. How stupid you should be to write they tested for months the patch? I mean this statement shows not only lack of understanding, but also of any logic. Well for the offline shops they will change the game code, so that probably will take more time - maybe few days as there will be bureaucratic issues with NCSoft Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ikcen said: - and what is the difference I do not know a computer language named "legit", maybe there is one, but I doubt L2 Classic servers use it. You have no idea what you are talking about obviously. Yes, I realize the amount of time. About 20 minutes on PHP. It took more time to implement and test the code - 1,5 hours to be exact. And they did not ask NCSoft Korea as they did not change anything in the game code. The change was only on the US/EU logging servers. Also - tested for months? This is not a new medicine dude. How stupid you should be to write they tested for months the patch? I mean this statement shows not only lack of understanding, but also of any logic. Well for the offline shops they will change the game code, so that probably will take more time - maybe few days as there will be bureaucratic issues with NCSoft Korea. There you have your answer. The server code is different than web code, they cannot be compared. L2J is shit code, legit server code, moron is what NC Korea uses. Hence, learn the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikcen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Arinulis said: There you have your answer. The server code is different than web code, they cannot be compared. L2J is shit code, legit server code, moron is what NC Korea uses. Hence, learn the difference. L2J is a server code written on Java. It is not shit, bad, or anything else - just written on Java. To write about codding you need at least a slightest idea what you are talking about. Obviously you have not such. Many private servers now use L2OFF - the official code or close to it written on C++. All have offline shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizer Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 offline shops wont be implemented forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikcen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Fizer said: offline shops wont be implemented forget about it. I do not say they will be implemented. I say they are a smart solution. And there is not a reason against them. Even one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizer Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Ikcen said: I do not say they will be implemented. I say they are a smart solution. And there is not a reason against them. Even one. No this is not. The smart solution: You can use boxes if u have atleast 1 VIP on them. This is a smart solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizer Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 And I am against offline shops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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