Daik0n Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Updates from Korea coming as fast as never before. So fast it impacted us hard we could not xp properly because of the changes made for the Korean player base that is much higher lvl than us. That why we have the 150 element herb now. Also nerfs coming fast. We got the Eviscerator 30% nerf (July 15, 2020) less than 2 months after it went live on Korea. Even so, the good stuff not coming like: Change in materials for R110 bloody/dark/limited upgrades( November 28, 2019 ): https://4r4m.com/en/r110-items-upgrade-en/ (this on in particular is SO OLD, why we STILL don't have it???) Changes in item upgrades now using Cristal of Dawn ( July 29th, 2020 ): https://4r4m.com/en/cod-upgrade-patch-en/ Einhasad Golden Coins Shop ( July 1 patch ): https://4r4m.com/en/einhasad-shop-en/ All of this would help balance the server and also avoid getting recent patches from Korea that will make everyone unable to xp properly like Untold Tales did. So I ask, when? Edited October 1, 2020 by Daik0n 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1. Did you read that? Where do we get EoD from? No way for us to get that in NA - Answer: NC Store 2. Yea great all those crystal of dawn items.... Where do we get crystal of dawns from? - Answer: NC Store 3. I cannot read that one so idea. So you answer to changes is add more items we need to buy for IRL cash? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodah Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Slycutter said: 1. Did you read that? Where do we get EoD from? No way for us to get that in NA - Answer: NC Store 2. Yea great all those crystal of dawn items.... Where do we get crystal of dawns from? - Answer: NC Store 3. I cannot read that one so idea. So you answer to changes is add more items we need to buy for IRL cash? I know your an old player and all but sometimes.....it just seems as though you don't research/ask clannies about a subject before you post on here. EoDs have been sold in the Grocery Store for months (maybe over year). Additionally, the July 29th patch referenced will change most upgrades to a Crystals of Dawn charge. That is both good and bad; good for upgrading Dragon Shirts, bad for Circlets so... IDK. Edited October 2, 2020 by Rodah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daik0n Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 23 hours ago, Slycutter said: 1. Did you read that? Where do we get EoD from? No way for us to get that in NA - Answer: NC Store 2. Yea great all those crystal of dawn items.... Where do we get crystal of dawns from? - Answer: NC Store 3. I cannot read that one so idea. So you answer to changes is add more items we need to buy for IRL cash? i quote rodah... circlet stones will be removed from drop in PI and crystal of dawn will have its chance increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daik0n Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 @Juji so? Waiting on these confirmations to know if I'll stay or quit. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lean Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Daik0n said: @Juji so?Waiting on these confirmations to know if I'll stay or quit. If you depend on it to decide, i don't think you have to wait for any answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldKingCold Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Einhasad Golden Coins (EGC) Shop -- This is something they should have given us a long time ago. But NCSoft wants people to buy ncoins for event items to then convert into adena so that they can buy many of the same items that you can buy more directly with Einhasad coins. NCSoft won't ever sell adena, but the Einhasad coins are the next best thing. For ~$34 USD you get 400 EGC. I don't know what the current NCoin to Adena conversion rate is, but I'm willing to bet my first born kid that it's way cheaper to buy a Red Cat 5 using Einhasad coins than it is to buy Ncoins and convert them into adena to buy a Red Cat at high market prices set by players. @Juji @Hime When are we getting this feature? Jewels / Talisman / Soul Crystal Item Price Topaz Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 100 Ruby Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 500 Saphire Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 65 Obsidian Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 40 Opal Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 15 Emerald Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 25 Aquamarine Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 7 Diamond Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 40 Pearl Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 7 Vitality Stone Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 70 Garnet Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 4 Tanzanite Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 300 Red Cat Eye Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 1300 Blue Cat Eye Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 250 Shining Energy of Protection 100 Energy of Protection + 20 coins Sealed Talisman of Longing 130 Aura of Talisman of Insanity 100 Sayha’s Talisman box Lv. 1 2 Sayha’s Energy 40 Energy of Protection 4 Accessory / Agathion / Artifact / Dye Item Price Zodiac Agathion Cube 2 Zodiac Agathion’s Book of Growth 1 Book of Growth: Agathion Charm From the Star 7 Book of Growth: Agathion Charm From the Star Destruction 12 Book of Growth: Greater Agathion Charm From the Star 8 Crystal of Dyes 5 Artifact Fragment 4 Artifact Crystal 9 Angel’s Necklace box 2 Angel’s Earring box 2 Angel’s Ring box 3 Scrolls / Items to upgrade gear / Items to improve gear Item Price Blessed Scroll: Enchant Circlet 3 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Brooch 4 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Artifact Book 13 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Seed Bracelet 13 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Kaliel Bracelet 1 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Dragon Shirt 2 Crystal of Dawn 20 Star Sign 7 Dark Armor Enhancement Stone 7 Bloody Armor Enhancement Stone 18 Enchantment items / Craft / Skill / Consumables Item Price Time Stone of Storm Isle 10 Time Stone of Primeval Isle 10 Time Stone of Golden Altar (Isle of Souls) 10 Time Stone of Abandoned Coal Mines 2 Time Stone of Atelia Refinery 10 High-grade Weapon Augmenting Stone 1 Top-grade Weapon Augmenting Stone 2 Brooch Augmenting Stone 4 Circlet of Power Augmenting Stone 5 Superior Weapon Augmenting Stone 3 Giant’s Energy Spirit Stone 3 Accessory Augmenting Stone 13 Selenite 2 Superior Giant’s Codex 1 Superior Giant’s Codex – Mastery 1 Superior Giant’s Codex Chapter 1 1 Superior Giant’s Codex Chapter 1 – Mastery 1 Forgotten Spellbook chapter 1 7 Gran Kain Elixir 1 Homunculus items / Misc. Item Price Homunculus’ Hourglass 5000000 Adena Nevit’s Cloak of Light Box (30 days) 300 Lv.5 Rode box (30 days) 30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldKingCold Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Daik0n said: @Juji so? Waiting on these confirmations to know if I'll stay or quit. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaggarDagger Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4r4m's content, Korean l2 content.. Is still about 8 months ahead of us. I also just want to add, if you watch some of the Korean L2 streamers and compare, here on NA servers, we hit a lot harder. Like, a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHyperlite Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheHaggarDagger said: 4r4m's content, Korean l2 content.. Is still about 8 months ahead of us. I also just want to add, if you watch some of the Korean L2 streamers and compare, here on NA servers, we hit a lot harder. Like, a lot. We have cloaks, they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDxDan Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 10 hours ago, OldKingCold said: Einhasad Golden Coins (EGC) Shop -- This is something they should have given us a long time ago. But NCSoft wants people to buy ncoins for event items to then convert into adena so that they can buy many of the same items that you can buy more directly with Einhasad coins. NCSoft won't ever sell adena, but the Einhasad coins are the next best thing. For ~$34 USD you get 400 EGC. I don't know what the current NCoin to Adena conversion rate is, but I'm willing to bet my first born kid that it's way cheaper to buy a Red Cat 5 using Einhasad coins than it is to buy Ncoins and convert them into adena to buy a Red Cat at high market prices set by players. @Juji @Hime When are we getting this feature? Jewels / Talisman / Soul Crystal Item Price Topaz Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 100 Ruby Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 500 Saphire Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 65 Obsidian Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 40 Opal Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 15 Emerald Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 25 Aquamarine Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 7 Diamond Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 40 Pearl Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 7 Vitality Stone Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 70 Garnet Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 4 Tanzanite Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 300 Red Cat Eye Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 1300 Blue Cat Eye Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 250 Shining Energy of Protection 100 Energy of Protection + 20 coins Sealed Talisman of Longing 130 Aura of Talisman of Insanity 100 Sayha’s Talisman box Lv. 1 2 Sayha’s Energy 40 Energy of Protection 4 Accessory / Agathion / Artifact / Dye Item Price Zodiac Agathion Cube 2 Zodiac Agathion’s Book of Growth 1 Book of Growth: Agathion Charm From the Star 7 Book of Growth: Agathion Charm From the Star Destruction 12 Book of Growth: Greater Agathion Charm From the Star 8 Crystal of Dyes 5 Artifact Fragment 4 Artifact Crystal 9 Angel’s Necklace box 2 Angel’s Earring box 2 Angel’s Ring box 3 Scrolls / Items to upgrade gear / Items to improve gear Item Price Blessed Scroll: Enchant Circlet 3 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Brooch 4 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Artifact Book 13 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Seed Bracelet 13 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Kaliel Bracelet 1 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Dragon Shirt 2 Crystal of Dawn 20 Star Sign 7 Dark Armor Enhancement Stone 7 Bloody Armor Enhancement Stone 18 Enchantment items / Craft / Skill / Consumables Item Price Time Stone of Storm Isle 10 Time Stone of Primeval Isle 10 Time Stone of Golden Altar (Isle of Souls) 10 Time Stone of Abandoned Coal Mines 2 Time Stone of Atelia Refinery 10 High-grade Weapon Augmenting Stone 1 Top-grade Weapon Augmenting Stone 2 Brooch Augmenting Stone 4 Circlet of Power Augmenting Stone 5 Superior Weapon Augmenting Stone 3 Giant’s Energy Spirit Stone 3 Accessory Augmenting Stone 13 Selenite 2 Superior Giant’s Codex 1 Superior Giant’s Codex – Mastery 1 Superior Giant’s Codex Chapter 1 1 Superior Giant’s Codex Chapter 1 – Mastery 1 Forgotten Spellbook chapter 1 7 Gran Kain Elixir 1 Homunculus items / Misc. Item Price Homunculus’ Hourglass 5000000 Adena Nevit’s Cloak of Light Box (30 days) 300 Lv.5 Rode box (30 days) 30 I would like this to come live.I rather directly buy something. I do not trust our Server Scamming Community with my Ncoins. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRage Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 10/1/2020 at 12:42 PM, Slycutter said: 1. Did you read that? Where do we get EoD from? No way for us to get that in NA - Answer: NC Store 2. Yea great all those crystal of dawn items.... Where do we get crystal of dawns from? - Answer: NC Store 3. I cannot read that one so idea. So you answer to changes is add more items we need to buy for IRL cash? Of course their answer is to put it for ppl buy with ncoins. Tell me what they throw in l2 store that ppl don't buy it? They buy everything. I don't see any problem on having a shop to buy exp boost and consumables. All the rest, should be in-game drops. Any kind of drop. Collect coins to exchange, chance of full drop and so on. Ppl complain on server of high market prices, and ppl who buy ncoins to make adena out of it. Well, is the same thing. NC put stuff on l2store because they know ppl will buy it to make adena. And ppl buy it because they know that they will make adena of it. But do players care about game? Nope. They Don't. If ppl stop buying stuff from the top spenders, they will stop buying itens from l2store. and if they stop buying itens from l2store, those updates would certainlly come. But we do not have the guts to do it. I myself buy some stuff from l2store. not event itens. Boosts, consumables and other stuff. I do have prestige pack. NC can make money in so many ways then not messing game up with this damn actions. But again, do they care about players? Nope. They don't. Ps.: i'm sorry for any writing mistake. english is not my strong language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daik0n Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, iRage said: Of course their answer is to put it for ppl buy with ncoins. Tell me what they throw in l2 store that ppl don't buy it? They buy everything. I don't see any problem on having a shop to buy exp boost and consumables. All the rest, should be in-game drops. Any kind of drop. Collect coins to exchange, chance of full drop and so on. Ppl complain on server of high market prices, and ppl who buy ncoins to make adena out of it. Well, is the same thing. NC put stuff on l2store because they know ppl will buy it to make adena. And ppl buy it because they know that they will make adena of it. But do players care about game? Nope. They Don't. If ppl stop buying stuff from the top spenders, they will stop buying itens from l2store. and if they stop buying itens from l2store, those updates would certainlly come. But we do not have the guts to do it. I myself buy some stuff from l2store. not event itens. Boosts, consumables and other stuff. I do have prestige pack. NC can make money in so many ways then not messing game up with this damn actions. But again, do they care about players? Nope. They don't. Ps.: i'm sorry for any writing mistake. english is not my strong language. You guys rly dont read the whole stuff right? No store item needed for those changes(cry of dawn and r110 upgrade). Take your time to read again. Juji said a while ago they are aiming to push changes globally to make all regions as alike as possible. We are getting updates from korea as fast as never before. Why do they want this? Because from a development poinf of view its a nightmare to maintain different versions of a same software consistent, specially with a small team of developers to take care of it all. Korea, West, Japan, China, Singapore, plus the royalty export versions like 4game and Innova all with different demands. I remember the frog buff from Lizardmen was bugged, the effect was not applying to crossbows after GoD update(and they had a ton of devs back then). I reported that time and time again. They would fix during some regular maintenance and when a new update came the bug came back also because they didn't merge the fix with the updates. Code was simply lost somewhere in some branch(if there was one at all). They were having trouble keeping the different code bases consistent. Now, if that was not the case they would have never allowed the circlets of power be a reward from the newbie quests, neither have the enchants drop from Primeval Island. They will still have plenty of other stuff to get money from if they allow easy Dragon Shirts/Kaliel upgrades. They still have the Cloaks, Artifacts, and the Wings Circlet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daik0n Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 why is this topic being censored? all replies are getting deleted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazilianGuy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 when does this update arrive? I also want to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daik0n Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) Just an informative upgrade on this, if anyone cared to actually read and make the math for the update for R110 armor/weapon upgrades: Upgrading from Enhanced -> Bloody/Dark = 8b Same 8b for Bloody/Dark -> Limited upgrade. Also only ONE stone needed from the opposite effect instead of 30. And that's the price if you got 0 mats needed and are buying from NPC. Remembering all mats needed can be bought from NPC shop. No need to fish or pay high prices for Elcyum. Edited October 15, 2020 by Daik0n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 What they remove elcyum from the upgrade? I do not see elcyum on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daik0n Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) On 10/16/2020 at 1:03 AM, Slycutter said: What they remove elcyum from the upgrade? I do not see elcyum on that list? Yes. The non-sense of everything relying on fishing is over there. For almost a year now and we got nothing. I think not enought ppl realized the costs so let me show for weapons(and that's both for enhanced -> dark/bloody and dark/bloody -> limited) New cost: Enhanced or PvP/PvE R110 weapon 1 Dark/Bloody Weapon Stone 1 (90m) Energy of Destruction 360 (2b) Giant’s Energy 180 (1b) Gemstone (R-grade) 3198 (4b) Crystal (R-grade) 38378 (1b) Adena 101.036.875 TOTAL: 8.2b Current Cost: Dark/Bloody Weapon Stone 30 (2.7b) Adena 13.88b Gemstone (R-grade) 3859 (4.8b) Elcyum 47x300m (14b) TOTAL: 35.38b Edited October 17, 2020 by Daik0n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 biggest change is removing elcyum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euph0ria Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) @Juji @Hime We, the players who keep the server alive, would like to get some kind of feedback on this. Enough of RMT scam, enough of high NCstore prices. I bet you'd still get much income by reducing the prices as more people could afford to pay! Make game fair or you'll lose even more players. You did one right thing this whole time, the past XP event and that's it. Everything else is heavy pay to play. P.S: Push Korea to fix Wynns Edited October 22, 2020 by Euph0ria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystikal Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 10/6/2020 at 4:11 PM, OldKingCold said: Einhasad Golden Coins (EGC) Shop -- This is something they should have given us a long time ago. But NCSoft wants people to buy ncoins for event items to then convert into adena so that they can buy many of the same items that you can buy more directly with Einhasad coins. NCSoft won't ever sell adena, but the Einhasad coins are the next best thing. For ~$34 USD you get 400 EGC. I don't know what the current NCoin to Adena conversion rate is, but I'm willing to bet my first born kid that it's way cheaper to buy a Red Cat 5 using Einhasad coins than it is to buy Ncoins and convert them into adena to buy a Red Cat at high market prices set by players. @Juji @Hime When are we getting this feature? Jewels / Talisman / Soul Crystal Item Price Topaz Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 100 Ruby Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 500 Saphire Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 65 Obsidian Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 40 Opal Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 15 Emerald Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 25 Aquamarine Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 7 Diamond Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 40 Pearl Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 7 Vitality Stone Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 70 Garnet Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 4 Tanzanite Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 300 Red Cat Eye Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 1300 Blue Cat Eye Lv. 5 Jewelry Box 250 Shining Energy of Protection 100 Energy of Protection + 20 coins Sealed Talisman of Longing 130 Aura of Talisman of Insanity 100 Sayha’s Talisman box Lv. 1 2 Sayha’s Energy 40 Energy of Protection 4 Accessory / Agathion / Artifact / Dye Item Price Zodiac Agathion Cube 2 Zodiac Agathion’s Book of Growth 1 Book of Growth: Agathion Charm From the Star 7 Book of Growth: Agathion Charm From the Star Destruction 12 Book of Growth: Greater Agathion Charm From the Star 8 Crystal of Dyes 5 Artifact Fragment 4 Artifact Crystal 9 Angel’s Necklace box 2 Angel’s Earring box 2 Angel’s Ring box 3 Scrolls / Items to upgrade gear / Items to improve gear Item Price Blessed Scroll: Enchant Circlet 3 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Brooch 4 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Artifact Book 13 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Seed Bracelet 13 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Kaliel Bracelet 1 Blessed Scroll: Enchant Dragon Shirt 2 Crystal of Dawn 20 Star Sign 7 Dark Armor Enhancement Stone 7 Bloody Armor Enhancement Stone 18 Enchantment items / Craft / Skill / Consumables Item Price Time Stone of Storm Isle 10 Time Stone of Primeval Isle 10 Time Stone of Golden Altar (Isle of Souls) 10 Time Stone of Abandoned Coal Mines 2 Time Stone of Atelia Refinery 10 High-grade Weapon Augmenting Stone 1 Top-grade Weapon Augmenting Stone 2 Brooch Augmenting Stone 4 Circlet of Power Augmenting Stone 5 Superior Weapon Augmenting Stone 3 Giant’s Energy Spirit Stone 3 Accessory Augmenting Stone 13 Selenite 2 Superior Giant’s Codex 1 Superior Giant’s Codex – Mastery 1 Superior Giant’s Codex Chapter 1 1 Superior Giant’s Codex Chapter 1 – Mastery 1 Forgotten Spellbook chapter 1 7 Gran Kain Elixir 1 Homunculus items / Misc. Item Price Homunculus’ Hourglass 5000000 Adena Nevit’s Cloak of Light Box (30 days) 300 Lv.5 Rode box (30 days) 30 Looks familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmina1 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 this was the first version of the einhassad store Core had...unfortunatly over the years it got watered down and is now way less appealing then it once was... would be awsome we get those listings for buyable items but i dont think this will ever happen here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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