TheQuiett Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 IF you check chrono ranking top 5, 4 of them are tyrr dreadnought and two of them are 124 aleady and top pvp toon in server ,hero titan just change to tyrr dreadnought also today because there's no way you can catch up this class's pve and pvp abilities atm it's very unbalanced and too overpowered at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 wait till 15th March when they get even stronger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 if you cant beat em join em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Archers are only class that gets nothing in this update I think we are going to rank right above Summoners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siri Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 DN is NOT op in pvp. Equal geared DN vs. Titan or even DN vs Doombringer, the DN will mostly loose. PVE wise DN's are fast and strong and thats why ppl reroll to them. To make fast lvl progress, especially with the new DT Areas added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connex Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 so instead of asking to boost the rest of the classes you complain about the one class that people "that spend money or have the gear" play with? Or better yet, the one class that is supposed to be AOE king? what kind of flawed logic is that...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastDK Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 So the rumours is true.. Tyrr dreadnought the main class to play for this coming expansion. The patch note only tell you one thing.. players gonna buy up those OverEnchant Limited Stormer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fell Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 16 hours ago, Slycutter said: Archers are only class that gets nothing in this update I think we are going to rank right above Summoners Yul Ghost Sentinel Ghost Penetration Focuses on the inner power of the Ghost Sentinel, pushing combat ability to the limit. For 30 seconds, P. Skill Critical Rate +50%. Yul Trickster Tricky Rapid Shot Shoots an arrow at the target with hands defter than anyone else. Inflicts damage to a single target with 70% Power of P. Atk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 If you knew anything of mid to high level archers most are at 90% crit rate or better. That is like buff that gives me attack speed does nothing for me. If that was crit damage or power be better I am already at 90% so that skill gives me 95% for 30 seconds? for 2 greater runes sounds like a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLancer Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 So this expansion/patch is for Tyrr dreadnought. Nothing for Tyrr Maestro again.... the useless Dwarf.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fell Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Slycutter said: If you knew anything of mid to high level archers most are at 90% crit rate or better. That is like buff that gives me attack speed does nothing for me. If that was crit damage or power be better I am already at 90% so that skill gives me 95% for 30 seconds? for 2 greater runes sounds like a deal. How do you know about the 90%+ skillcrt chance? Factcheck: Opened oly rating now: out of 10 players in the chart, 4 are archers (morphling, cronos; neoHaT, chronos; KingScoobz, chronos; doomcaster, chronos). Dethrone ratings: lllaaalll, exeq7er, argeon - out of first top 10 players of naia (whose class i can proof), at least 3 are archers. This allows me to assume that they are not "nerfed", nor bad, neither in pvp, nor pve. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 I have done tests 100 hits x 10 times i get between 88 and 92 crits per 100 hits from my skills. Higher players test these things. So my average over 1000 hits is 90%. If you actually look on Chronos only doomcaster is in the top 10 on the server, top 6 are tyrr and doomcaster is 7 Out of top 100 players only 14 are archers only 4 in top 25. SMH you let things fool you. Ever see where 11aaa111 and exeq7er level? non pvp 112 areas to max kills and the kill over people they can only xp in those areas. Don't let things like that fool you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDeathKnigth Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 12:23 PM, LastDK said: So the rumours is true.. Tyrr dreadnought the main class to play for this coming expansion. The patch note only tell you one thing.. players gonna buy up those OverEnchant Limited Stormer. What did i miss ? Why oe lim ? Dw not better ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHyperlite Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/2/2023 at 9:04 PM, Slycutter said: Archers are only class that gets nothing in this update I think we are going to rank right above Summoners huh? MS and Sagi get an additional low cd aoe, trickster is gonna be uber single target damage at 0 cooldown, and gs will always crit in pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fademist Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 5:04 AM, Slycutter said: Archers are only class that gets nothing in this update I think we are going to rank right above Summoners thats the joke of the millenium i guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 17 hours ago, iHyperlite said: huh? MS and Sagi get an additional low cd aoe, trickster is gonna be uber single target damage at 0 cooldown, and gs will always crit in pvp Lets be honest only people who play MS Sagi and Trickster is for hero or ranking buffs. GS already with the right crit all the time i dont need another buff i need more consistent damage no way a melee toon should be able to range jump and kill me in 1 hit before i can even hit them for more than 1k damage. Our server Sagi 1st place 120 2nd place 120 3rd place 116 and then it falls off from there MS 1st place through 3rd 120 and then falls off Trickster 1 +2 120 3rd 119 the fall off GS 1 - 36 are 120+ Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzik Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 if you have 1 sec cooldowns on all your skills, (aoe's) included then you already do more dmg than everyone else. a 3rd AOE skill on MS/Saggi will not make them outdamage you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Renzik said: if you have 1 sec cooldowns on all your skills, (aoe's) included then you already do more dmg than everyone else. a 3rd AOE skill on MS/Saggi will not make them outdamage you! Renzik maybe I should be more clear. An archer use be to be dangerous because they could kite you to death no matter what kind of damage was inflicted, We can no longer do that; I would love some surviability again like a more active camo with shorter reuse or perhaps a root shot sort of like an upgraded hamstring shot (which is pretty useless now) that roots you to ground for even 5 seconds. Allowing an archer to create space from the target or kill at range; in melee range we have very little defense or escapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAndouille Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 1:49 AM, TheQuiett said: IF you check chrono ranking top 5, 4 of them are tyrr dreadnought and two of them are 124 aleady and top pvp toon in server ,hero titan just change to tyrr dreadnought also today because there's no way you can catch up this class's pve and pvp abilities atm it's very unbalanced and too overpowered at the moment Adino Top 1 Was dagger, i adviced him to change to Dreadnought like me because its good PVE claas. Andouille Top 2: Always was Dreadnought and my gear and setup made me lvlup very fast. Gicobbe Top 3: Was always Duelist and Top 1 Ranked for many years. FaultyNuke top 4: He was Feoh and changed to Dreadnought because he was also influenced by Dreads like me. Exos Top 5: He was Feoh until last Libra, he changed to TITAN for a long time, FaultyNuke quit and sold Exos His stage 3 pole, so Exos switched to Dreadnoughts Brevant top 11: Titan all his life, changed to dreadnought this month to try and take my hero because we took his hero on Titan and he's EMO about it. In conclusion, influence made people change to this claas. they were not originally dreadnought unlike i am. And Dreadnought has 0 PVP skills, its pure PVE claas, because of their multiple AOES and Provoke skill that have bigger range than power provoke. But Dread has lowest patk, no Skill for pvp like Titan with GUTS, or Duelist with Faceoff , or DoomBringer with Sword Shield/Soul Barrier. only thing in pvp that is good is the provoke debuff to deal more dmg. but nothing defensive wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitzza Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 53 minutes ago, Slycutter said: Renzik maybe I should be more clear. An archer use be to be dangerous because they could kite you to death no matter what kind of damage was inflicted, We can no longer do that; I would love some surviability again like a more active camo with shorter reuse or perhaps a root shot sort of like an upgraded hamstring shot (which is pretty useless now) that roots you to ground for even 5 seconds. Allowing an archer to create space from the target or kill at range; in melee range we have very little defense or escapes. I am not saying some new good skills would be nice in gs, but gs is not next to summon, daggers are the lowest in updates, as long as you're skills fail to land it doesn't matter how much dmg you have ore cooldown, you can not improve kills rates/ farming unless you go aoe super saiyan goku getting alot of gear and still will fall off other aoe, becuse you can choose a aoe character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fademist Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Slycutter said: Renzik maybe I should be more clear. An archer use be to be dangerous because they could kite you to death no matter what kind of damage was inflicted, We can no longer do that; I would love some surviability again like a more active camo with shorter reuse or perhaps a root shot sort of like an upgraded hamstring shot (which is pretty useless now) that roots you to ground for even 5 seconds. Allowing an archer to create space from the target or kill at range; in melee range we have very little defense or escapes. to do that kite u need hands just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 I am talking pvp not pve; pve archers have no issue. PVP I shouldn't die if a DK or Titan look at me; there is no way an equally geared archer can kill one you can't kite them. That is the point they are giving more to those classes but not balancing the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fademist Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, Slycutter said: I am talking pvp not pve; pve archers have no issue. PVP I shouldn't die if a DK or Titan look at me; there is no way an equally geared archer can kill one you can't kite them. That is the point they are giving more to those classes but not balancing the others. u shouldnt die from dk or tyrrs? what stoping u to have them outside their skill range? maybe u rnt good enough to kite properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 LOL o ok please show me an archer that can take out any top 10 tyrrs or DK How do you kite a Death Knight or Tyrr? Please give us the knowledge that all Archers are asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fademist Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, Slycutter said: LOL o ok please show me an archer that can take out any top 10 tyrrs or DK How do you kite a Death Knight or Tyrr? Please give us the knowledge that all Archers are asking for. u hit outside their skill range thats not enough? so stop QQ ..cause if we start with that what othells feohs can say compared to yuls LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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