rpgmaniac Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 WTF! is that??? --> Items do not drop upon a character’s death (including Chaotic characters) Tell me that you are joking... ok most people agree to remove drop on death for non-chaotic characters but the drop on death for red-named/chaotic characters is & always was a part of what L2 is all about, you can't remove this from the server & keep on calling the server "classic" this is unacceptable don't do that! without this the server is not classic I don't know wtf is it but classic is not, classic doesn't mean "just grind till you bleed & that's all about it..." PK that include drop on death for PKers is a part of L2 & without risking to drop your gear the choice of PKing someone doesn't have near the same impact, this ruin the whole feeling you must change that you turn the server to full-carebear mode & this choice I guarantee you it will drive away countless people who were planning to play until they read that single line in the patch notes, there is still time change this or you are risking to ruin it all, I mean it, I don't know who thought to do this but this is 100% wrong, DON'T DO THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhr Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 The risk now is greater because your friends can't pick-up the stuff that just exploded in your inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latvietis Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Also how does this "helps" with the PK "issues". Previously when you kill a chaotic character YOU will get something for that, now it just dissapers into nowhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrOLLw Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Suhr said: The risk now is greater because your friends can't pick-up the stuff that just exploded in your inventory. there goes the fun of the Red Pinyata! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgmaniac Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Suhr said: The risk now is greater because your friends can't pick-up the stuff that just exploded in your inventory. This is bullshit, where is the drama in that? what is worst to just loose it or to pick up your expensive gear someone from an enemy clan & keep it for himself or sell it to get money & better gear up himself? this is what cause the biggest drama, this is by far what hurt the most, this is why L2 was so fun to play, L2 was at it's best when there was lots of drama with enemies/enemy clans this was what kept people playing for years, if they remove the drama this is not L2 anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaerinox Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZygiA Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, rpgmaniac said: This is bullshit, where is the drama in that? what is worst to just loose it or to pick up your expensive gear someone from an enemy clan & keep it for himself or sell it to get money & better gear up himself? this is what cause the biggest drama, this is by far what hurt the most, this is why L2 was so fun to play, L2 was at it's best when there was lots of drama with enemies/enemy clans this was what kept people playing for years, if they remove the drama this is not L2 anymore. Ok, change the system back to what it was for all I care, but don't tell me that L2 was about killing PKs and getting their gear, as that rarely happens on low rates. And, when I say rarely, I mean rarely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSchizo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 You think that seeing someones red b grade weapon disappear after you kill his red ass is any less fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgmaniac Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 @JujiPlz reconsider doing that me & my friends & everyone who were planning to start playing here will definitely change their minds when they see what you are planning to do in the server, we came back to relive the good old times & we can't do that if you remove all the thrill & fun things from the game, what make L2 what it is, we want to play the old fun L2 that was full of risk & drama, you are gonna ruin the whole attempt of opening a classic server before it even start, you are driving the core of the playerbase that was interested to play on this server away in case you didn't get it yet, so do the necessary steps now before it's too late or the opening don't expect to be near as successful it could be without this stupid choices that turn this server to something entirely different that what we want to play, things like that was what drive everyone of us away from L2, didn't you open this server in the first place to bring back the veterans? so why are you doing this now? do you want us back or not? with choices like this one you won't bring back any of us be certain about that, this is very-very disappointing you succeeded to ruin the plans of countless people, don't expect to bring the hardcore population back after that, this is not a classic server btw, ask any veteran like me who was there & experienced everything & will tell you the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightRider Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 The pk system is about revenge and not hand outs. This is the way it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferimeth Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, rpgmaniac said: @JujiPlz reconsider doing that me & my friends & everyone who were planning to start playing here will definitely change their minds when they see what you are planning to do in the server, we came back to relive the good old times & we can't do that if you remove all the thrill & fun things from the game, what make L2 what it is, we want to play the old fun L2 that was full of risk & drama, you are gonna ruin the whole attempt of opening a classic server before it even start, you are driving the core of the playbase that was interested to play on this server away in case you didn't get it yet, so do the necessary steps now before it's too late or the opening don't expect to be near as successful it could be without this stupid choices that turn this server to something entirely different that what we want to play, things like that was what drive everyone of us away from L2, didn't you open this server in the first place to bring back the veterans? so why are you doing things like that now? do you want us back or not? with choices like this one you won't bring back any of us be certain about that, this is very-very disappointing you succeed to ruin the plans of countless people, don't expect to bring the hardcore population back after that, this is not a classic server btw, ask any veteran like me who was there & experience everything & will tell you the same. Guys, SHIT! HIM AND HIS FRIENDS AREN'T COMING IF THIS ISN'T CHANGED, THERE'S NO MORE LAUNCH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZygiA Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, rpgmaniac said: @JujiPlz reconsider doing that me & my friends & everyone who were planning to start playing here will definitely change their minds when they see what you are planning to do in the server, we came back to relive the good old times & we can't do that if you remove all the thrill & fun things from the game, what make L2 what it is, we want to play the old fun L2 that was full of risk & drama, you are gonna ruin the whole attempt of opening a classic server before it even start, you are driving the core of the playbase that was interested to play on this server away in case you didn't get it yet, so do the necessary steps now before it's too late or the opening don't expect to be near as successful it could be without this stupid choices that turn this server to something entirely different that what we want to play, things like that was what drive everyone of us away from L2, didn't you open this server in the first place to bring back the veterans? so why are you doing things like that now? do you want us back or not? with choices like this one you won't bring back any of us be certain about that, this is very-very disappointing you succeed to ruin the plans of countless people, don't expect to bring the hardcore population back after that, this is not a classic server btw, ask any veteran like me who was there & experience everything & will tell you the same. PK item destruction v PK item dropping will drive you and your 'hardcore' friends away from L2? Bye then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABAL Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 47 minutes ago, Latvietis said: Also how does this "helps" with the PK "issues". Previously when you kill a chaotic character YOU will get something for that, now it just dissapers into nowhere... I seriously believe that too many players from private servers came here and they all think that people will go PK +4 because 'is fun'. This is x1 ! x1 ! Now, tell me who in their right mind would go PK+4 in a server with this rates?! For PK's, we should not see a difference yes? Because they still lose. Let's see how many people will go PK, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackl Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Theres already augments if you don't want your gear to drop. This was unnecessary. Even Live post GoD L2 has drop on red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferimeth Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 YES NO DROPS EVER! FINALLY! YESSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSunderland Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 This is Insanity! PKs Should Drop thats the deserved punishment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyAccountIsSuspendedHelp Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 The new change is stupid because it just causes loss to the PK and does not reward the person who killed the PK. For example, if the killer of the PK got a weapon for he is much better off and probably feels a lot better about getting PK'd in the first place. When I just see the PK weapon disappear I don't feel any direct reward, it is just something he can probably replace whereas it would have been an item that helped me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhr Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 6 hours ago, KABAL said: This is x1 ! x1 ! Now, tell me who in their right mind would go PK+4 in a server with this rates?! Just to be fully clear - compared to old L2 levelling curve, Classic is more like 0.16x instead of 1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABAL Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Suhr said: Just to be fully clear - compared to old L2 levelling curve, Classic is more like 0.16x instead of 1x Yet .. people believes everyone and their mother will go Red PK + 4 , so they can go , kill them and pick up their dropped ( NoGrade ) items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrOLLw Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Friend, country man....brother... Vote . https://www.strawpoll.me/16571021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrOLLw Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, KABAL said: Yet .. people believes everyone and their mother will go Red PK + 4 , so they can go , kill them and pick up their dropped ( NoGrade ) items Thats not what its about at all you simpleton. Look up the slippery slope fallacy. I dont plan on going red, and if did the new function wouldnt stop me. Its about hiw players interact with eachother verse you commie children who believe everyone gets a trophy. You limit this today, xp loss tomorrow and then you and your socialist friends get what they want. A very boring WoW. GTFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABAL Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, TrOLLw said: Thats not what its about at all you simpleton. Look up the slippery slope fallacy. I dont plan on going red, and if did the new function wouldnt stop me. Its about hiw players interact with eachother verse you commie children who believe everyone gets a trophy. You limit this today, xp loss tomorrow and then you and your socialist friends get what they want. A very boring WoW. GTFO Wait what? So this does not affect you, but from a conspiracy theory point of view, MAYBE it will affect you in the future?! Wow! Where are you coming from ? If NcSoft will go back to 'PK drop on death' , it will change NOTHING. People will NOT go red on this server. I mean, yea sure, some randoms here and here with a wood shield and wood sword, but that's about it. Who knows, maybe after awhile , people will go red with low D, and so on. So yeah, in around 1 year, maybe a PK player will drop his B boots. Well , congratulation. You earned it I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrOLLw Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 blah blah blah kid I cant cure you. I just ordrr combo numbers 3 from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABAL Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, TrOLLw said: blah blah blah kid I cant cure you. I just ordrr combo numbers 3 from you. So you are a troll as your forum nickname says ! Go back to your cave I suppose. You are way pass your normal time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payne Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Kabal please stop, this is a very serious issue and you are taking the seriousness off this conversation. A lot of nostalgic players come here to play classic and the drop on PK was the biggest part of what gave Lineage it's identity setting it apart from WoW and other casual mmo's. Without the item drop there is no incentive and reward to hunt down red players. This will kill the heart of Lineage 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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