Zaaka Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 @Juji is this a mistake? Mass recharge was something both SE and EE got at level 80 and now you add it to the SE but not the EE? That seems super strange so I was wondering if this is a mistake or really intended like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2 Team Juji Posted October 2, 2018 L2 Team Share Posted October 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Zaaka said: @Juji is this a mistake? Mass recharge was something both SE and EE got at level 80 and now you add it to the SE but not the EE? That seems super strange so I was wondering if this is a mistake or really intended like that? Mass Recharge is only for SE. Not a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakerchou Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Juji said: Mass Recharge is only for SE. Not a mistake. Please check the massive outcry regarding PK system(destruction with 4+ PK Count) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldena Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Juji said: Mass Recharge is only for SE. Not a mistake. Why did SE get like 4 new skills/buffs and ee got 1 though? @Juji What's the logic behind this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldena Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Elven Elder Spell Master Casting Spd. +13%, M. Critical Rate +10. - Advanced Block Increases Shield Defense by 10% for 20 minutes. Shilien Elder Spell Master Casting Spd. +9%, M. Critical Rate +10. - Stigma of Shilen For 30 seconds, decreases Short-range Weapon Resistance by -16. Curse Field of Shilen Decreases Melee Weapon Resistance of the target and nearby enemies by -16 for 30 seconds. Might of Heaven Inflicts holy damage with 29 Power added to M. Atk. 66 Mass Recharge Restore up to 240 MP per party member level. Consumes 5 Spirit Ore. ^ Why does SE get all that, and EE just gets 2 things? @Juji @Hime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaka Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 Ye I'm a bit sad about that too. SE also has greater group heal, VR, Empower, Stigma so the EE is being watered a bit down as a nice all around support class with SEs bringing so much more to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mage Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Because SE has bigger knockers of course. duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldena Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Zaaka said: Ye I'm a bit sad about that too. SE also has greater group heal, VR, Empower, Stigma so the EE is being watered a bit down as a nice all around support class with SEs bringing so much more to the table. Agreed. I'm perplexed. I'd love to hear some rationing on this. @Hime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmusingName003 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 SE's need the love. EE already has huge benefits over SE, like PARTY RECALL, way faster cast speed, the only decent stun resistance, clarity, etc... Good thing I'm rolling a nuker with SE+EE combo. I get it all. I just wish one of them got acumen and zerk. Sigh.. I guess I'll have to resort to fish stew or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zace Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kaldena said: Agreed. I'm perplexed. I'd love to hear some rationing on this. @Hime Cus on classic SE is nothing more than a boxed char you drag along, while EE can be a real pvp healer that also comes with stun resist and Clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZygiA Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kaldena said: Agreed. I'm perplexed. I'd love to hear some rationing on this. @Hime If you ask me, SE's were neglected. Basically, their only 'valuable' buff was Vampiric (which WC has) and Empower (which OL has). Also, EE is much more viable in pvps, faster healing and mana recharging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0unter Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 OMG! People started to cry! SE and EE are differents! just it! if you like all the new skills in SE so choose a SE. Do you see any overlord crying here? Have you look his skills? empo,haste,focus?dw? none!! each char have good and bad things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mage Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 rip OL imma go pp I guess...wahhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beleaua Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Zace said: Cus on classic SE is nothing more than a boxed char you drag along, while EE can be a real pvp healer that also comes with stun resist and Clarity. SE active has a lot better heals than EE and still useful in groups. An active EE is good late game, it has a different skills set than SE. Those are not the only things they get. look on wiki. https://l2wiki.com/classic/Shillien_Elder + https://l2wiki.com/classic/Shillien_Saint https://l2wiki.com/classic/Elven_Elder + https://l2wiki.com/classic/Evas_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zace Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, beleaua said: SE active has a lot better heals than EE and still useful in groups. An active EE is good late game, it has a different skills set than SE. Those are not the only things they get. look on wiki. https://l2wiki.com/classic/Shillien_Elder + https://l2wiki.com/classic/Shillien_Saint https://l2wiki.com/classic/Elven_Elder + https://l2wiki.com/classic/Evas_Saint Still useful sure, but most people still chose to play live EE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumbo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Zaaka said: @Juji is this a mistake? Mass recharge was something both SE and EE got at level 80 and now you add it to the SE but not the EE? That seems super strange so I was wondering if this is a mistake or really intended like that? https://l2wiki.com/classic/Main_Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonRyan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 It's not a mistake. Honestly SE needs all the extras it can get for people to want to play them actively. Their casting speed isn't as fast as an EE's, and later on Mass Vitalize from an EE will be a nice skill in PvP. Not to say you can't play an SE live, but from what I've witnessed in Classic SE was typically boxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reecy22 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 You also left out the reason the SE is shunned more than the EE Once you get to higher levels the EE has the highest Res Penalty reducition in the game. Also they are the ones you want in your group when a group goes badly with their escape spell. SE is a viable solo class play in classic with Dual blades and light armor if you like to solo but it way outshined by the Prophet and Warcryer Empower was great but Blessed SPS was introduced in the second expansion and and that is what killed the SE for the most part. Not to mention once you got a Blade Singer and Blade dancer to backup your buffer everything just got nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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