Alexiel Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 The servers are full for one reason - fishing. Anyone can clearly see it by checking the fishing areas. They are infested by keen fishermen. And when you start fishing yourself you quickly get the answer to the question why. Skillfull fisherman mission provides 500 free baits EVERY DAY. In 10 days of the free fishing rod from quest it means 5000 baits. Or even 5500 if you open the fishing rod pack and start fishing at the right time. All it requires is a level 20 toon (which is like 1 day of exp) and 5 baits (which you can buy instantly). Now let's say you don't want to invest anything into fishing, so you don't use shots. With those 5k baits and 20% fishing rate you get 592 blue and 390 fresh mackarel and 29 golden treasure chests (results may vary). You can either stop there and use all the free stuff, or you can turn the blue mackarel into more baits and go fishing again. 3 more rounds and you end up with no blue mackarel and 510 fresh blue mackarel and 38 golden treasure chests (again, results may vary). After 10 days of fishing rod you roll a new toon and rinse and repeat. Even the pro players playing only one toon are encouraged to log another two just for fishing, because it's automatic and provides various boosts for the main one (they can exp the sidekicks outside of CP time). The more computers you have, the more fishermen you must have. The worst thing is you don't even have to log another account too often, just relog the same account and keep creating new characters. And now imagine that bots can do all of this completely unattended. Fishing is not only self-sustainable, but OP, because everyone can play for free (no VIP requied), get level 20, get the 10-day fishing rod instantly and because the daily fishing mission is OP. This system may be fine in other territories where people have to pay for every account, but is too easily exploitable in free to play. I suggest to replace the daily mission reward (decrease the amount of baits to 24 or less, or put a completely different reward there, such as a non-tradable buff scroll, potion, etc.), or reduce the duration of the free fishing rod from quest (2 hours?), or both. This will dramatically decrease the amount of people online almost instantly. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoniums7 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 +1 and is easy to do i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devoid Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I would also suggest a nerf to adena/drop/spoil rates, that would really help with the queue problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 37 minutes ago, Devoid said: I would also suggest a nerf to adena/drop/spoil rates, that would really help with the queue problem. This and decrease the xp gain too.Also the shots and buff Scrolls in the l2store are op, rise their price 10-20 times at least. Make weapons consume at least 20 bss and 40 SS each shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, mixa said: This and decrease the xp gain too.Also the shots and buff Scrolls in the l2store are op, rise their price 10-20 times at least. Make weapons consume at least 20 bss and 40 SS each shot. I love the sarcasm lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nef Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I say turn off drops, fishing gets you Karma levels, and health pots poison you. That will surely help decrease server population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 They just need to turn off the monster event and disable fishing for the time being, having hundreds of AFK players just sitting there is clogging the servers unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorukasama Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Alexiel said: The servers are full for one reason - fishing. Anyone can clearly see it by checking the fishing areas. They are infested by keen fishermen. And when you start fishing yourself you quickly get the answer to the question why. Skillfull fisherman mission provides 500 free baits EVERY DAY. In 10 days of the free fishing rod from quest it means 5000 baits. Or even 5500 if you open the fishing rod pack and start fishing at the right time. All it requires is a level 20 toon (which is like 1 day of exp) and 5 baits (which you can buy instantly). Now let's say you don't want to invest anything into fishing, so you don't use shots. With those 5k baits and 20% fishing rate you get 592 blue and 390 fresh mackarel and 29 golden treasure chests (results may vary). You can either stop there and use all the free stuff, or you can turn the blue mackarel into more baits and go fishing again. 3 more rounds and you end up with no blue mackarel and 510 fresh blue mackarel and 38 golden treasure chests (again, results may vary). After 10 days of fishing rod you roll a new toon and rinse and repeat. Even the pro players playing only one toon are encouraged to log another two just for fishing, because it's automatic and provides various boosts for the main one (they can exp the sidekicks outside of CP time). The more computers you have, the more fishermen you must have. The worst thing is you don't even have to log another account too often, just relog the same account and keep creating new characters. And now imagine that bots can do all of this completely unattended. Fishing is not only self-sustainable, but OP, because everyone can play for free (no VIP requied), get level 20, get the 10-day fishing rod instantly and because the daily fishing mission is OP. This system may be fine in other territories where people have to pay for every account, but is too easily exploitable in free to play. I suggest to replace the daily mission reward (decrease the amount of baits to 24 or less, or put a completely different reward there, such as a non-tradable buff scroll, potion, etc.), or reduce the duration of the free fishing rod from quest (2 hours?), or both. This will dramatically decrease the amount of people online almost instantly. Thanks. There's an issue and isn't fishing. Is triple-boxing for the memorable raids event. Don`t mess with fishing or I'll pk you wirh my fishing rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medeoan Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Koijhy said: the problen is the dual box, not the fishing system go to EG and see with your eyes, vips with +7 box in train partys, tons of afk peoples dancing in citys, go to Ruin of agony/despair, 200+ afk player waithing for he raid event the fishing system is good for people with need lvl but dont have a tons of hour to play Fishing IS a problem. First off, this wasn't something part of the game in the original Lineage II. Or rather, it was in the game, but it didn't do anything. Fishing didn't become popular until it was automated. Second, no aspect of gameplay should be automated by the game itself. This is tantamount to giving everyone a full out right bot and scripting to do everything and undermines NC Soft's own no botting rules. I wouldn't be surprised if people could argue in a court case that the way fishing works means that NC Soft has no right to enforce rules against botting else where in the game. Finally, the game honestly doesn't need fishing. It serves no real function within the game and I would say the game was better off if NC Soft had never gone back to try and make it into a viable activity. That said, I won't complain if they leave fishing in the game. Just remove the automation for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexiel Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 Exactly nothing will change about the queue when they turn off the raid event. People will just equip the fishing rods and start afking elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabbanz Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 +++++1 6k slots but 4k is only ppl afk fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperoni Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 How much golden treasure chests go for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 @Hime @Juji @Amraith Could you just please turn off auto fishing with restart? It would free space for at least 500 people. Baby steps, no need for huge updates with numerous fixes, lets have small fixes maybe as a problem is very big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeMiaN Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 "Skillfull fisherman mission provides 500 free baits EVERY DAY" What is the name of this quest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, MeMiaN said: "Skillfull fisherman mission provides 500 free baits EVERY DAY" What is the name of this quest? it was mission, it's already over though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexiel Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 nothing is over, it has barely started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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