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Why there is not auction house?


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21 minutes ago, sdfsdfsdfsdf said:

Because it's classic.

oh rly?

19 minutes ago, Krissa said:

Because "making trading exhausting" is a part of the game.

mad cuz would lose the option to buy cheap and sell expensive with 2 afk accounts? such business man much wow, you should add "expert l2 trader" to your curriculum vitae and send it to george soros 

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37 minutes ago, Cardenal said:

mad cuz would lose the option to buy cheap and sell expensive with 2 afk accounts? 

Yes? 

Isn't that how reselling works? 

And auction house will destroy the market in a way you won't understand, sadly. 

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The auction house was a great, and much used, addition to live.  It did not destroy the market for anything.  It just made it easier for people to comparison shop.  They could see much easier when they were being ripped off.  I cannot believe the number of people with buy shops, buying materials for less that players can get from the npcs.  Preying on the ignorance of noobs is probably profitable, and certainly legal.  But it's a nasty business.  To the extent the auction house fights that, I'm all for it.  Also, if they do add an auction house, they should make it commission-free.  Otherwise, it becomes an adena sink for servers that don't have enough adena as it is.

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5 hours ago, Cardenal said:

Not like cities full of afk stores filling servers(without forgetting bots, but we know you don't care about them) making trading exhausting and vip mandatory just to login is the reason people is playing classic

auction was introduced very later on! it was part of the game for years and nobody complained because ofc they didnt know about it and everything was fine! the point of trading here is to make u play in order to get benefit from that! afk shops and auction house are factions which will help u get money while u are sleeping or whatever! that sounds fine (hell yeah are u crazy u dont want something like that?) ofc not but for some would request a legal bot program so they can farm and exp while sleeping as well :D the other thing is that why should u make a profit while sleeping and not me or someone else who would be online selling the same product and catch the chance to sell it instead of u! u might wont agree again but our major problem is the rates and adenas to the faking auction house man xD

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22 minutes ago, Jorep said:

auction was introduced very later on! it was part of the game for years and nobody complained because ofc they didnt know about it and everything was fine! the point of trading here is to make u play in order to get benefit from that! afk shops and auction house are factions which will help u get money while u are sleeping or whatever! that sounds fine (hell yeah are u crazy u dont want something like that?) ofc not but for some would request a legal bot program so they can farm and exp while sleeping as well :D the other thing is that why should u make a profit while sleeping and not me or someone else who would be online selling the same product and catch the chance to sell it instead of u! u might wont agree again but our major problem is the rates and adenas to the faking auction house man xD

But, of course, all those with private shops are probably afk sleeping or whatever. Would you eliminate those stores too?

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5 hours ago, Cardenal said:

Not like cities full of afk stores filling servers(without forgetting bots, but we know you don't care about them) making trading exhausting and vip mandatory just to login is the reason people is playing classic

The auction house is instanced trade. And why there is not an instanced battleground? It will be so much easier for the players. And instanced raid bosses, so the different parties could do the same raid simultaneously? It is so much easier to make WoW. But this is an open world game - so you have to check the stores. Every one of them gives you unique basket with deals. You can buy cheap and sell expensive. You can find the good deal traveling. You can make party trade, or to manipulate the market. It is a game into the game. A cooperation and competition with the other players for the best deals. If you put an auction house instead - it will be easier, but not better. Also the auction house did not exist in the original chronicles. It was implemented in GoD, and GoD is not real L2 anymore. 

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@Lawman what do you mean w/o taxes? That's why the auction house was introduced to be an Adena sink. Now you want it to make your life easier at no cost? That's not what the devs are thinking about.

It will be interesting if they put it in the game, tax 1k for item registration and % of sale price... Then sell you 6k worth of Thread via the mighty AH. 

 

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4 hours ago, NufNuf said:

@Lawman what do you mean w/o taxes? That's why the auction house was introduced to be an Adena sink. Now you want it to make your life easier at no cost? That's not what the devs are thinking about.

It will be interesting if they put it in the game, tax 1k for item registration and % of sale price... Then sell you 6k worth of Thread via the mighty AH. 

 

 Yes, but live needed an adena sink. Classic doesn’t. When it does, they can add the commission back. They just need to make people understand the no commissions is temporary. Call it an event. 

Sure it is not a perfect solution, but the best is the enemy of the good. Don’t reject an idea that would help just because it is not perfect. 

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Because centralizing the market like that puts all the power in the hands of those with the most adena. The way it is now, people can still get a trickle of mats without paying top dollar, if the mats just always go to the person who pays the most, it blocks out those who can't pay the highest price. It's on the players if they fall for scams like soul crystals as D crystals or selling mats for less than NPC prices. Not everything needs to be so carebear.

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old L2 didn't had babysit quest till lvl 20, free no grade armor, free full d grade armor, free scroll buffs, free potions, xp scrolls, free teleports, etc, why none of you fight against that? oh right! that doesn't affect in your attempt to scam naive players xD  all of you against an AH are too predictable, please, try harder. 

Anyways, koreans will do what they like no matter what, ncwest does what koreans demand...

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It is better to have those people logged in forcing them to interact with the gameclient and the game world instead of having a bunch of offlinestores or an empty bot only server, because everyone is trying to get a fast auchtion-house-buck by staying offline. 

L2's economy is too simple for that kind of play.

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AH its the worst idea in this kind of servers. Trust me when I say that people that don't pay or people that have some real life ( dont play more than 6 hours a day ) would feel a big pain in the ass with the AH beacuse all the players with BOTS, RMT, Nolifers would take over the market COMPLETELY

don't even think about implementing it please

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